Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by minimaxir on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:23PM
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Lambda School took off PR-wise because their promises made sense on paper.
The reality however is more important, especially when humans are adversely impacted if the promises are broken.
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by emteycz on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:01PM
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Wait until you see the reality in ordinary schools...
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by eachro on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:24PM
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Jason Calacanis's interview with Vincent Woo(the author of that piece) is quite good too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hUT8VZNvm8
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by treesrule on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:27PM
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> While the referenced cases aren't good, not their mistakes alone
Check notes: "notify students that the bankruptcy dischargeability provision language is not accurate"
Just to be clear this isn't a "mistake" this is fraud.
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by fastball on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:03PM
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IANAL but pretty sure that does not, in fact, qualify as fraud.
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by dragonwriter on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:39PM
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I think it probably is fraud, even legally, but only because “qualified education loans” subject to rules against discharge in bankruptcy are also eligible for tax deductions on interest, so while falsely claiming the status was intended as a dissuasion against recourse to bankruptcy for past customers (and not fraud, though clearly unethical, when that’s all the claim serves as), it also was a material misrepresentation which could encourage new customers to purchase services based on it, which is fraud.
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by dragonwriter on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:25PM
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Actually, since the loan is structured as an all-principal, no-interest $30,000 loan, deductibility of interest isn’t an issue, so it wouldn’t be classic fraud.
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by treesrule on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:31PM
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yeah sorry, I would bet you are right in the strict legal sense, I guess its a dumb cop out but I meant in the colloquial sense.
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by LMYahooTFY on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:49PM
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This is not fraud, and it's barely even relevant. The ISA dissolves after 5 years even if you've paid nothing.
The fact that it is dischargeable is itself interesting.
Edit: said the opposite of what I meant
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by kelnos on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @03:59AM
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This isn't the ISA; it's a special contract only used for CA-based students that does not allow for a discharge after 5 years.
Re:Lambda School agrees to end deceptive educational financi...
by LMYahooTFY on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @02:37PM
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Interesting, I didn't realize this was the case.
It's starting a new form of education! There are going to be operational headaches and a few misses! While the referenced cases aren't good, we can assess Lambda on their overall contribution, not their mistakes alone.