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Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by andrewjl on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:08PM (#26946645)
> Being able to detect the tribal flavor of information so that you can filter it out is what got us into this mess in the first place because it indexed on creating outrage bubbles for clicks.

What you're referring to as outrage bubbles has come about due to a lack of contextualization. One topic this is commonly seen is discussion on GMOs, where both pro-GMO and anti-GMO activists provide misleading facts as supporting evidence in their discussion. In this example and also when it comes to politics, a contextualization engine would be very effective in spurring dialogue and getting people to see multiple sides of an issue.

> When you ask the question, "whose contextualization engine?" and the whole premise falls apart, it becomes clear they have earned any mockery these engines are designed to sheild them from.

Where I personally differ from some of the social networks on this, is I think these should be default on but also come with an off switch. Meaning the user always has the ability to turn them off, but they need to take an active step in order to do so. IMO it's a good compromise.

Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by groby_b on Monday April 26, 2021 @05:18PM (#26948281)
Can we stop saying it's due to "lack of contextualization" as if it's something that just oddly happened?

The reason we lack context is that the world moved from chronological feeds to "engagement" based feeds. Anything that could have served as context gets optimized out, because more clicks. We're not naturally polarized - we have created an environment that favored the more outrageous claims, slowly removing the middle ground as if it didn't exist.

What we need isn't a "contextualizion engine", it's getting rid of active efforts to decontextualize.

Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by andrewjl on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @07:42AM (#26954624)
> The reason we lack context is that the world moved from chronological feeds to "engagement" based feeds.

Engagement based feeds are more profitable due to ads and also the rich profiles that can be built from aggregated engagement metrics. Unless business models drastically change, no major for-profit entity will make their feeds less engaging.

The contextualization engine sounds like the neutrality doctrine that was used in the US during the mid-20th century to maintain media neutrality. Clearly, at least back then, it passed legal muster. It's worth seeing if it makes sense in a different medium. Are there better alternatives?

Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by groby_b on Thursday April 29, 2021 @12:22PM (#26983127)
Selling cocaine is also quite profitable, and yet we opted to not allow that.

That's not to say that I think legal restrictions are necessarily the right answer, but neither is "well, it's more profitable" a reason to not explore that space.

Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by gweinberg on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:07PM (#26948876)
There are pro-GMO activists?
Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by epgui on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @12:36AM (#26952054)
Well, yes, pretty much everyone who is an actual expert in biochemistry. I count myself in that group.

However, probably none of us consider ourselves "activists". We just shake our head and do our job.

Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by epgui on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:30AM (#26965941)
For more high-level context, I highly recommend this review:

"Consumer acceptance of novel food technologies" (17 June 2020) - https://www.nature.com/articles/s43016-020-0094-x

Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by Dma54rhs on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @01:18AM (#26952309)
The scientists mainly. Anti GMO misinformation always comes from activists and weird NGOs.
Re:‘Contextualization Engines’ can fight misinformation with... by jandrese on Monday April 26, 2021 @09:46PM (#26950847)
Probably like the golden rice people.