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Re:Changes at Basecamp by Afforess on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:45PM (#26946362)
> No more paternalistic benefits.

Cutting benefits and calling it a feature. Amazing.

A lot of "work will set you free" vibes from this.

Re:Changes at Basecamp by agd on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:52PM (#26946457)
They also set out how they've paid the value of these benefits to employees instead, and have started a profit sharing plan. Looks like a better deal to me?
Re:Changes at Basecamp by itsdrewmiller on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:10PM (#26949496)
Paid out "this year" - pretty weaselly. Are they going to pay out the value next year too or just cut it from the budget?
Re:Changes at Basecamp by markmark on Monday April 26, 2021 @08:46PM (#26950311)
The job market is great, if people aren't happy with their comp they can find someone who wants to pay them more.
Re:Changes at Basecamp by mplewis on Monday April 26, 2021 @09:51PM (#26950899)
Answer the question.
Re:Changes at Basecamp by markmark on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:06PM (#26951027)
They are paying out this year, then introducing a 10% profit share next year. But, as I said, this is just a compensation discussion. If people are unhappy they can renegotiate their comp or find someone else to pay them more.
Re:Changes at Basecamp by yaml-ops-guy on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:01PM (#26948815)
I don't know what Basecamp's books look like, I don't have the clairvoyance to know what they will look like in the future..

humor a speculative question for a moment: would the "better deal" have been to give employees the option of how they'd like to receive their fringe benefits versus a one-size-fits-all edict, so that those with less tolerance for the volatility of profit sharing can enjoy a bit of stability with such fringe benefits if profits decline?

Especially after, as another commenter mentioned: the tax implication of cash payout?

Re:Changes at Basecamp by Afforess on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:55PM (#26946497)
Cash value != Benefit value.

That you interpret the cash value as being identical shows you trust management over the employees, who this actually effects...

Re:Changes at Basecamp by swyx on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:52PM (#26946462)
cutting benefits and paying out the cash value of them so you can decide what to do with it. i understand the objections to the other points in the post, but why do you present half the story on this one?
Re:Changes at Basecamp by lxgr on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:11PM (#26946678)
> paying out the cash value of them so you can decide what to do with it.

Doesn't this have tax implications? At least in my country, some types of benefits are income tax exempt.

Re:Changes at Basecamp by swyx on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:12PM (#26946699)
thats a fair point. no idea if its possible perhaps they could classify it as a lump sum tax exempt benefit rather than a categorical reimbursement based one that mostly goes unused.

still even with a 40% tax hit - i'd take a "cash benefit" over the piles of benefits i know i'm not using.

Re:Changes at Basecamp by zrail on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:14PM (#26946722)
That wouldn't work for US employees. Any benefits other than very specific allowed categories are taxable income. The wellness benefit, CSA share, etc are already taxable.
Re:Changes at Basecamp by dahdum on Monday April 26, 2021 @08:52PM (#26950361)
They've paid out the benefits for "this year". They could have, but did not, raise base compensation by the value of those benefits.
Re:Changes at Basecamp by sleepydog on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:59PM (#26949905)
I wonder what the cash value is, since a large group can usually negotiate a better deal than an individual. Will employees get the amount the company spends per employee, or the amount it would take for them to get the benefit for themselves?