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Re:Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1? by heinrich5991 on Sunday April 25, 2021 @08:08PM (#26937990)
Counting is usually done with natural numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counting.
Re:Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1? by Ansil849 on Monday April 26, 2021 @12:05AM (#26939163)
The Wikipedia link does not back-up your claim in the slightest. On the contrary, it states:

> The traditional way of counting consists of continually increasing a (mental or spoken) counter by a unit for every element of the set

Re:Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1? by hulitu on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:04AM (#26940033)
Wikipedia is known for many things but not for its wisdom. Counting is counting things. For example sheeps. You don't have 0 sheeps. Either you have 1 or 2 or 3 or you don't have any. If there are software engineers, things change because they treat 0 as an element of the list and 0 is the first in the list 1 the 2nd, etc.
Re:Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1? by Ansil849 on Monday April 26, 2021 @03:19AM (#26940116)
> Wikipedia is known for many things but not for its wisdom.

I was not the one who posted a Wikipedia link. I was only responding to the fact that the Wikipedia link did not support the prior poster's claim.

> Counting is counting things. For example sheeps. You don't have 0 sheeps. Either you have 1 or 2 or 3 or you don't have any.

Not having any sheep is literally having 0 sheep.

Re:Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1? by BugsJustFindMe on Monday April 26, 2021 @06:04AM (#26940946)
> Not having any sheep is literally having 0 sheep.

Only if you ignore the difference between having and not having.

Re:Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1? by Ansil849 on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:28AM (#26942845)
How is this ignoring the difference? The statements 'I do not have any sheep' and 'I have 0 sheep' are synonymous; neither statement ignores the other.
Re:Why is the 0 next to 9, not next to 1? by hulitu on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @05:39AM (#26953832)
Those statements are synonymous in SW. Try to explain this concept to a shepperd :)