EU proposing to regulate the use of Bayesian estimation

Re:EU proposing to regulate the use of Bayesian estimation by colejohnson66 on Sunday April 25, 2021 @01:22PM (#26934486)

Yes, that works with ads, but the person I replied to was referencing any form of manipulation. Because what counts as manipulation? I referenced two examples of things that average consumers do, but generally wouldn't say they've been "manipulated" to do so.

And that's before you even get into the question of "what is an ad?" and "are all ads bad?" (which you mention) Because promo videos for things such as video games are common, but I wouldn't call them ads (per se). Are music singles ads for the whole album? Historically, music videos were called "promo videos" because their intent was: "we air this on MTV or the FM radio so that people will buy the album." Am I being advertised to there? Maybe? But what if I end up finding a new band I like?

You can't define this cleanly.

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Re:EU proposing to regulate the use of Bayesian estimation by mLuby on Sunday April 25, 2021 @02:13PM (#26935047)

Manipulation requires intent and action:

    "I believe they won't do B unless I do A, so I do A."

"I believe they won't do B unless I do A" on its own is harmless—there's no action.

"I do A" on its own is unintentional. Does anyone really act without intent?

Legal systems have (imperfect) ways to ascertain intent (AKA premeditation), causality, and harm, so they can deal with the concept of manipulation.

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