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Re:The NCAA Erased My Career by 1cvmask on Saturday April 24, 2021 @08:20PM (#26929329)
There is no equivalent to our college athletics in the whole world and anything that comes close to the scam that the NCAA is.

If you want to become an athlete in the rest of the world you skip schooling after high school and go straight into professional sports. The academic sports complex is a massive scam that is two-fold. It makes money off the (mainly blacks) “student” athletes either from the sports (and NCAA) or the alumni contributions in division 1 schools with men’s basketball or football. The students get nothing in return (not even an education in most cases - many examples of them being “graduated” whilst being illiterate and innumerate - see link at bottom). In the division 3 schools that are ranked competitively academically they are used as quota systems to let more whites into the school with esoteric or “elitist” sports like the aforementioned tennis or fencing or squash.

The rest of the world has the equivalent of our Minor League in Baseball for all competitive sports.Any sports in college is strictly intramural and for “fun”. Schools do not recruit athletes, as entrances are often based on exam results or some form of academic testing system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_League_Baseball

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_athletics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_athletics_in_the_Unite...

My favorite story on our academic athletic complex is the bond issuance of over 60 million dollars to build a high school football stadium in Texas:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2639092-texas-town-appro...

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https://edition.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-...

Re:The NCAA Erased My Career by xhkkffbf on Sunday April 25, 2021 @02:24PM (#26935180)
First, no one is holding a gun to anyone's head. If the athletes don't like it, they don't have to go.

Second, the non-athletes pay a pretty penny for those classes that the athletes may ignore. It's common for students and their families to part with $150,000 to more than $300,000 for the same access to classes. Now, I agree that many athletes fail to get an education, but I think it's a stretch to say that this is all the fault of the college industrial complex. At some point, the students have to go to class.

Third, I realize that many coaches ask for long time commitments from athletes, but even then the value of the scholarship is still pretty sweet. For many, it may be the easiest money they make in their life. Even if they work out for 20 hours for the 25 weeks in a season, that's just 500 hours, about 1/4 of a normal full-time job. If the scholarship is worth $75,000 (as some are), then you're pulling down the equivalent of $300,000/year on an hourly basis. But it gets better because that scholarship is TAX-FREE.

Your general attitude about college sports has much merit, but the athletes are compensated.

Re:The NCAA Erased My Career by swim2win on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @01:41AM (#26952425)
As a former D1 swimmer, I can tell you 20 hours a week is on the low end. Sure, the NCAA mandates it be 20 hours of training but coaches aren’t really doing that. The amount of hours spent PT hours spent to essentially recover has to be considered.

Let’s address your other points: 1. Scholarship money. Scholarship money is great, but here’s the deal. Normally very few people get a full ride. There are only a certain amount of scholarships per team. Each sport has a different number of allotted scholarships and it is fixed across the schools in a a division. Your average scholarship is mostly like half of tuition or less, because of trying to make the team as a whole better.

2. Athletes have to go to class. Yes the have to. Unfortunately, there are these pulling demands or just crap reality.

First scenario: So your broken down student athlete, who has been training 30 hours, has to attend class. He/she attends class but honestly being mentally present is tough.

Second: You’re a student athlete whose ability to attend school is based on athletic performance. You don’t perform well or get hurt, you can lose that scholarship next year. Say bye bye to school.

Re:The NCAA Erased My Career by xhkkffbf on Friday April 30, 2021 @02:26PM (#26997356)
Sure. I'm not saying it's a great job. I'm just saying that it's a job and there's a real quid pro quo. It just bugs me when people like to get preachy and say the athletes aren't compensated. Baloney.

And you're correct to point out that many of the scholarships in minor sports are fractional. The funny thing is that there's so much prestige involved in getting an athletic scholarship that many don't complain about this. Indeed for many schools up to and including the very best, the prestige may be worth more than the dollar value.