No hacker news is just reddit with a disdain for low effort jokes and a more technical/verbose focus. Most of the lame part of reddit culture is still here.

it's also hacker news for people who hate hacker news

It's the internet for people who hate.

That would be lobste.rs

> > It's just reddit for people who hate reddit.

It's just reddit for people who hate

Sure there is some of that, but there are people who hate on reddit too. Like reddit, there's also plenty of normal boards like origami, fitness, sports etc. It just gets associated with /pol/ which is a containment board for a reason.