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Re:The real reason to end the death penalty by hedberg10 on Thursday April 22, 2021 @06:08AM (#26900911)
You can never 'match' the crime. Even if you go justicing around 'an eye for an eye' style, the perp will always have taken the initiative. You can never get that back. Everything you do is just a reaction.

That is what makes crime so heinous.

So your focus should be prevention at any cost first and foremost, then justice as prevention (= rehabilitation) as well. Murdering a murderer is pretty solid prevention though, I give you that.

Re:The real reason to end the death penalty by Sebb767 on Thursday April 22, 2021 @06:25AM (#26901073)
> You can never get that back. Everything you do is just a reaction.

Yes, but you can try. I can see why the loved ones of a murdered person feel someone is 'getting away' when he is still alive. Killing them feels much more like payback.

I don't that this does reasonably make sense, but I can understand where they are coming from.

Re:The real reason to end the death penalty by greedo on Thursday April 22, 2021 @04:10PM (#26907568)
As the loved one of a murdered person, I can speak to this. Nothing will bring back my loved one. Nothing. Gone forever. A hole left unfilled for eternity. Executing her killer won't bring her back. It won't help anyone "heal" or "find solace" or any other words that politicians use.
Re:The real reason to end the death penalty by hedberg10 on Thursday April 22, 2021 @07:20AM (#26901440)
> Killing them feels much more like payback

I'm sure many find that it didn't feel like it at all, because of my argumentation. Payback will always be incomplete. It can never be paid in full.

Even if you kill someone over and over again (some Sci-Fi comes to mind), the perp always took the first step and elevated his role in society unjustly.

Re:The real reason to end the death penalty by true_religion on Thursday April 22, 2021 @07:55AM (#26901711)
Lack of punishment can lead to more crime if people lose faith in the system. To take it to an extreme, if murder were punished with only a fine then victim families would just hire assassins to kill off a murderer if they feel the fine doesn’t suffice.