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Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by thatfunkymunki on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @02:37PM (#26893706)
People are well aware of theoretical risk of bad commits by malicious actors. They are justifiably extremely upset that someone is intentionally changing this from a theoretical attack to a real life issue.
Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by Edman274 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:21PM (#26894240)
I'm not confused about why people are upset at the researchers that introduced bugs and did it irresponsibly. I'm confused about why people aren't upset that an organization managing critical infrastructure is so under prepared at dealing with risks posed by rank amateurs, which they should've known about and had a mechanism of dealing with for years.

What this means is that anyone who could hijack a university email account, or could be a student at a state university for a semester or so, or work at a FAANG corporation could pretty much insert backdoors without a lot of scrutiny in a way that no one detects, because there aren't robust safeguards in place to actually verify that commits don't do anything sneaky beyond trusting that everyone is acting in good faith because of how they act in a code review process. I have trouble understanding the thought process that ends up basically ignoring the maintainers' duty to make sure that the code being committed doesn't endanger security or lives because they assumed that everything was 'cool'. The security posture in this critical infrastructure is deficient and no one wants to actually address it.

Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by shakna on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @04:33PM (#26895084)
> I have trouble understanding the thought process that ends up basically ignoring the maintainers' duty to make sure that the code being committed doesn't endanger security or lives because they assumed that everything was 'cool'. The security posture in this critical infrastructure is deficient and no one wants to actually address it.

They're banning a group known to be bad actors. And proactively tearing out the history of commits related to those known actors, before reviewing each commit.

That seems like the kernel team are taking a proactive stance on the security side of this. The LKML thread also talks about more stringent requirements that they're going to bring in, which was already going to be brought up at the next kernel conference.

None of these things seem like ignoring any of the security issues.

Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by splistud on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:41PM (#26894441)
After absorbing what the researchers did, I believe it's time to skip right over the second part and just concentrate on why so many critical systems are run on unforked Linux.
Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by phaedrus on Thursday April 22, 2021 @12:03AM (#26898604)
I remember a true story (forget by whom) where the narrator set up a simple website for some local community activity. A stranger hacked and defaced the website, admitted to doing so without revealing his identity. His position in contacting the author of the website was, "I did you a favor (by revealing how vulnerable it was)." The person telling the story reacted, "yes, but... you were the threat you're warning me of." It didn't result in the author recreating the site on a more secure platform, it only resulted in him deciding it was not worth the trouble to provide this free service any longer.