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Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by notwedtm on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @08:52AM (#26873895)
I don't build microservices anymore. All of the reasons listed in this thread tend to cause bottlnecks. I aim for domain services. Define your domains, and build a program to service it.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by UK-Al05 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @10:43AM (#26875349)
That's microservices. Microservices handle a bounded domain. At least in traditional advice for splitting microservices. The microservice provide an api for that domain.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by jblwps on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @11:55AM (#26876356)
Doesn't a "service" handle a domain?
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by UK-Al05 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:26PM (#26876848)
Putting micro in front of service was a bad idea. Lots of people have the wrong idea because of that.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by goodpoint on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @11:45AM (#26876182)
No, that's SOA. Microservices are almost always described as quite small.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by UK-Al05 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:22PM (#26876777)
The "Building Microservices" book, which used to be the goto book for microservices suggests on page 31 to page 38 that bounded domains are a good model for microservices.

The main difference between SOA and microservices is dump pipes vs smart pipes. Not service size. As explained in that book.

Most people trying to implement microservices seem to have not read much about them outside of blogs.

Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by ex_amazon_sde on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:55PM (#26877266)
Quoting some book does not change the fact that most people understand SOA as being team or domain-bound and microservices as being much smaller.
Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by UK-Al05 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @01:01PM (#26877336)
I'm assuming most people adopting micro-services weren't even around when SOA was a big thing.

People not reading the literature then implementing it badly isn't problem with the idea. In the same way that not studying calculus then doing badly isn't a problem of calculus.

Most of these issues around microservices like how to split them so they don't cause issues, are known and solved problems. Just people have not read the literature other than the odd "blog". Like don't do microservices, for your first iteration. Backwards compaitble apis, and understand your bounded contexts from your first iteration before you try.

They end up creating chatty nano services with tons of version fixed cross dependencies.

Re:Ask HN: How do you keep track of releases/deployments of ... by tdeck on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @01:12AM (#26885652)
Interesting because I always thought SOA was just a slightly older term for microservices.