Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013)
by LatteLazy on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @06:06AM
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People really underestimate how well the ussr did in ww2. Both in terms of the fighting and the result. Even with the Axis working to try and give the west as much aid as possible, Stalin controlled everything from the Rhine to the sea of Japan. The west's only real advantage was the US strategic airforce and nuclear weapons. The Soviets trumped those with their own bombs and sputnik within a decade.
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Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013)
by cafard on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @09:04AM
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Rhine, or Elbe?
Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013)
by flohofwoe on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @07:47AM
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Public opinion who actually won the war has shifted in the decades following WW2:
https://www.vox.com/2014/6/16/5814270/the-successful-70-year...
The war in Europe was already decided in 1943 at Stalingrad, over a year before the Western Front was even opened, and I guess the populace of Nazi-occupied Europe was very well aware of that.
A (not so minor) correction: The Red Army stopped roughly at the Elbe/Mulde rivers, not at the Rhine. Large parts of what would later become the Soviet Occupation Zone (and later East Germany) were actually liberated by the US Army (the US and UK do deserve a lot of credit for preventing the Soviet Union from occupying all of Europe after the war had ended of course).