Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by jagger27 on Monday April 19, 2021 @02:12PM
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I once used a system that stored old passwords as plaintext and searched for substring repetitions. Horrible.
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Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by rovr138 on Monday April 19, 2021 @02:40PM
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Microsoft has that.
Not plaintext, but encrypted (not hashed) with the idea that they can be used for things like that.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-pro...
Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by BrandoElFollito on Monday May 03, 2021 @12:00PM
(#27026737)
This is a good idea, if the passwords are the ones people change *from* (i.e. once you change your password, it gets into that list). This way nobody can use the password anymore (with the idea that it is a weak now, for any reason).
This is selfish, though. If that database of passwords leaks, they are prime candidates to test on *other* sites.
Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by ben0x539 on Monday April 19, 2021 @04:41PM
(#26867731)
If you encrypt the prior passwords using a key derived from the current password, you're enabling this sort of check on password change without really sacrificing security, don't you?
Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by dragonwriter on Monday April 19, 2021 @07:53PM
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> If you encrypt the prior passwords using a key derived from the current password,
How can you do that with a prior password if you didn’t store it as plaintext when it was current? You can’t encrypt something you don’t have. Unless you are encrypting the old hash, not the password.
Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by eropple on Monday April 19, 2021 @09:59PM
(#26869931)
You would have it during the password change if you did old-new-new_again, yeah?
Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by ben0x539 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @09:35PM
(#26884396)
Yeah that was the idea. I guess a lot of apps don't actually do that and just email you password reset links, in which case you can't actually recover the old password. :<
Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by rovr138 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @08:58AM
(#26889041)
This leaks data if a collision can be found and exploited.
Assuming the user uses the password in other places, this can be a bad thing.
Re:Microsoft says mandatory password changing is “ancient an...
by jnwatson on Monday April 19, 2021 @04:30PM
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The excellent (or horrible, depending on which end you're on) pam_pwquality[1] module for Linux allows rather fine-grained enforcement of how much a new password must differ from the old password.
1. https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/8-pam_pwquality/