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Re:Product-focused and sales-focused companies by knowyourleadcom on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:21AM (#26852701)
“we need to ship feature X by Y to get client Z otherwise the opportunity is gone.”

When you say client it becomes consulting that happens to have a software project at that point. If your market needs feature x Like a mobile app because a competitor is going to crush you without it then it makes sense. Reacting to a market every now and then is understandable. However I think the horrible sales driven companies react to individual customers and that destroys your chances of any cohesive plan as each sales person hijacks your devs...which means at that point they are selling your devs time for their individual gain hurting company’s ability to make a large impact on the market. Shouldn’t happen but that’s sales driven.

Re:Product-focused and sales-focused companies by reader_mode on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:39AM (#26852866)
I don't know - I've worked for a startup (in the size/age sense, not in the unicorn scaling sense) where they focused on one market segment (small customers) then got the opportunity to onboard a huge franchise. This required a huge change but would basically make their buisiness stable for X years and allow them to grow into a different market. But they had specific dates that needed to be met because existing provider contract was expiring, etc. etc.

So the product wasn't built for their scale, it took a bunch of invasive changes, dirty hacks, and accepting client specific workflow initially. You can look at that and say "we're lockign ourselves into their workflow" and "we're making client specific features" - but this client literally 3x their revenue year one and increased it a couple times more for extra features developed. And once you have one big client and solve their problems - you can try to generalise and sell to their competition as well.

Re:Product-focused and sales-focused companies by LootCrateDev on Sunday April 18, 2021 @12:50PM (#26854055)
Devs aren't loot crates.
Re:Product-focused and sales-focused companies by simlevesque on Sunday April 18, 2021 @12:59PM (#26854149)
Could you please explain what you mean instead of repeating an empty catchphrase? And did you really create this account to say the same thing over and over ?
Re:Product-focused and sales-focused companies by nkozyra on Sunday April 18, 2021 @11:14AM (#26853156)
> When you say client it becomes consulting that happens to have a software project at that point.

100%. If you cannot qualify a feature being important for the product and most/all customers you're chasing dollars. It's a common trap, driven by commission structures that incentivize a sale over anything else.

Re:Product-focused and sales-focused companies by inter_netuser on Sunday April 18, 2021 @07:05PM (#26857385)
How do you qualify a feature being important enough for the product?

In the end, all of this boils down to money/market share.

Re:Product-focused and sales-focused companies by knowyourleadcom on Sunday April 18, 2021 @08:23PM (#26857933)
Short answer - 2 factor login option likely interesting for > 60% of users, special thing for client X good for < 1%. Maybe a mvp for the 1% can be ok and maybe that could show promise as a new side hustle or enterprise feature.

Long answer - It’s very tough. It really is checkers vs chess and thinking 3 years ahead vs a quarter. Big client X wants to give us 100k now for quick thing but what will it take to babysit them going forward, also client X is a 1% of our revenue and everyone else is medium sized...I’m leaving out the 99% and making the product more bloated, etc. But can that feature be a enterprise level feature if your product is b2b enterprise sales.