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Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by washadjeffmad on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:02AM (#26852550)
Many purchases are recurring consumables. Food, clothing, medicine, office supplies, car parts- none of it lasts forever. What does it cost to be reminded that you can buy more?

Also, completely unrelatedly, if you saw some armchair internet rando claim they'd debunked a major and long-standing business strategy of market sector leader, how seriously would you take them?

Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by ClumsyPilot on Sunday April 18, 2021 @11:06AM (#26853096)
I had a 2-4-1 offer on chainsaws sent to me.

Business is subject to fads and stupidies, we have proof that open officez are a net negative, yet businesses continue. We have proof that getting people to change passwords every month is bad for security, but its still policy in many places. We have proof that using basalt or stainless rebar in RCC is more cost effective in the long run, but bs still continues.

Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by nitrogen on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:12PM (#26854277)
Maybe enough people who buy chainsaws are running tree trimming crews?
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by Gustomaximus on Monday April 19, 2021 @02:33AM (#26859679)
I live on a farm and want multiple chainsaws. I've 3 currently and wouldn't mind a couple more.

For urban life multiple doesn't make sense. For professional/rural it really does.

Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by II2II on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:40AM (#26852884)
> What does it cost to be reminded that you can buy more?

At a certain point in my life, one where I sought fewer material comforts (and had less media exposure), I used to claim that advertising won't convince me to buy anything but it may convince me not to. There is a very fine line between persuasion and overstepping ethical boundaries.

Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by pas on Sunday April 18, 2021 @12:35PM (#26853923)
Sure, but for most people that line is not so fine.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by bladewolf47 on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:20AM (#26852690)
Not sure if it fits with what the poster you replied to was saying but I find it a bit curious when I buy say a guitar on Amazon and my recommendations (emails or ads in other sites) over the next few days are still guitars. I do not remember seeing one of those promotions which follow a purchase being about accessories or add-ons.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by snowwrestler on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:48AM (#26852965)
No automated recommendation system is going to be perfect; it’s either going to over-recommend or under-recommend. From the way the Amazon system works, we can infer that they have decided that missing to the over-recommend side is a better business strategy than missing under.

And it kind of makes sense if you think about it... really, what are the consequences of seeing these silly over-recommendations? Did you stop buying from Amazon? I bet the vast majority of people shrug or laugh, but don’t change habits.

Also, big one-time purchases tend to be rare, so optimizing a recommendation system around those is probably suboptimal compared to optimizing it around frequent consumable purchases.

Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by another-dave on Sunday April 18, 2021 @03:19PM (#26855432)
> I bet the vast majority of people shrug or laugh, but don’t change habits.

Or you tell all your friends about it and end up having a conversation about guitars/dishwashers or whatever.

It may not be intentional on their part, but spin off conversations can be a nice by-product for them. Feels like it helps it stick in the mind, a bit like writing a witty TV ad.

Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by bladewolf47 on Sunday April 18, 2021 @11:30AM (#26853318)
I can see what you are saying, the downside is pretty much nil. And it seems like people do buy more guitars than just one. I'm currently just entering this phase where I just now stopped regretting the purchase because I couldn't play any music out of it initially. :)
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by SyzygistSix on Sunday April 18, 2021 @11:22AM (#26853232)
I think guitars are like bicycles where the optimal number to have is n+1 where n = the number you currently own.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by vbsteven on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:40PM (#26854587)
Unless you are married or in a committed relationship, then it becomes n-1 where n = the number at which your significant other leaves you.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by metafunctor on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:31AM (#26852791)
I dunno, I’ve bought several guitars in a row…
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by scruple on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:40AM (#26852887)
Well I've had it happen with toilet seats. In 40 years on this planet I've only ever needed to purchase that one. I'd imagine if I needed to get more than one that I would get them all at the same time.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by cperciva on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:55AM (#26853021)
There's probably a nontrivial number of people who renovate houses one bathroom at a time.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by scruple on Sunday April 18, 2021 @11:48AM (#26853459)
I'm sure there are. I'm also sure, having been around house flippers (my brother flipped for a while, my MIL flipped for a while) and reno (my parents, my MIL, and my wife when we were dating) a few times in my life, that they don't buy them through Amazon/online.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by pbhjpbhj on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:09PM (#26854260)
That's the sort of thing you buy a new one because one broke and now it shows up how tatty (worn, old, messy) the other one(s) in your house are. Or someone asks where you got it ... "oh, I can't remember but Google ads showed me the same one of available at $diy_store", or whatever.
Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by bopbeepboop on Sunday April 18, 2021 @10:47AM (#26852959)
Its a math mistake on Amazons part.

They’ve conflated “most purchases of a toilet seat are made by someone who buys another” and “most people who buy one toilet seat buy a second”.

There’s a small, but high volume group of toilet seat purchases — eg, office buildings or apartment maintenance.

Re:Ask HN: I bought Voltaren at the chemist, now Google show... by codemusings on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:07AM (#26871575)
Preach.