I've never had to, was my point. Not since waaay back in the day when I was first learning about it (more than 20 years ago). I came to java (commercially) 5 years ago, and it's not that I've dealt with it so much I don't see it, I've never had to deal with it.

Maybe things have got much better in the last handful of years, I don't know. My experience of getting started with a java project in that time has been no worse (and not really any better either) than in other languages.