“My Octopus Teacher” defied convention

Re:“My Octopus Teacher” defied convention by WhompingWindows on Friday April 16, 2021 @10:47AM (#26834532)

Humans are supposedly born with inalienable rights - life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. Our societies in the West are built upon this shared foundation of rights. To deprive any adults of the ability to procreate would be considered barbaric, as they want to pursue the creation of "life" with their liberty, and to support their own happiness.

Meanwhile, nature is just raw competition, we're used to talking about genetic evolution in natural populations. Natural creatures aren't deemed to have any right to their own life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness, or at least not by most humans outside environmentalists.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:“My Octopus Teacher” defied convention by Avalaxy on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:13AM (#26834872)

> To deprive any adults of the ability to procreate would be considered barbaric

There are two ways to look at this. There is a difference between forbidding people to procreate, for example by forced sterilization, and simply not forcing things with unnatural interventions, for example with IVF for people who cannot conceive in a natural way. I don't think it's barbaric to see IVF as detrimental to the human gene pool.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:“My Octopus Teacher” defied convention by anonAndOn on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:40PM (#26836091)

Just a thought, is IVF an unnatural response to ubiquitous unnatural hormone disruptors and the proposed reduction in gametes? Would IVF even be known outside of the lab if men were as virile as their grandad (generally speaking)?

[ Parent | on HN ]