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Re:Java Is Underhyped by watwut on Friday April 16, 2021 @09:22AM (#26833545)
> I too think that IDEA is an excellent IDE, but why should Java take the credit for it. If anything, the more it needs an excellent IDE in order to feel pleasant, the worse it says about the language itself.

It actually does, the language itself makes those features possible. The reason javascript does not have as good IDE is that language itself stands in a way.

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Re:Java Is Underhyped by dunefox on Friday April 16, 2021 @10:02AM (#26833977)
You mean by having a (not very powerful) static type system and constructs that serve as name spaces for auto-completion lookup. Any language with modules and a static type system supports this, if the effort is put into creating the tools.
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Re:Java Is Underhyped by blacktriangle on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:03PM (#26835596)
It's a bit of a "stop hitting yourself" situation. Java features make awesome tooling possible, but awesome tooling is necessary due to some really bad features of Java. So I don't care if a different language has worse tooling when it also does not have the problems that Java has that the tooling solves.
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Re:Java Is Underhyped by watwut on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:05PM (#26837812)
The result of that tooling is better. It is easier to read, navigate, refactor and write then supposedly superior language without tooling.

The large the project, the bigger the gap gets.

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