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Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by DaiPlusPlus on Thursday April 15, 2021 @10:53PM (#26828862)
> You can't ask people how to do it, because if they could tell you then everyone would do it and it wouldn't work

Coding-camps?

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by ryankemper on Thursday April 15, 2021 @11:39PM (#26829164)
A coding camp is the opposite of hustling. It's called "bootcamp" for a reason - it's there to impose some structure for those who need it.

Also bootcamp is very overhyped. There's some great people that come out of them, but I think mainly the hype is the fact that college is overrated (this is a cliche opinion I know) so bootcamps are there to try to exploit some of the delta that the myopic focus on college degrees creates. But many boot camps are super myopic in their own ways.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by practicalpants on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:01AM (#26829306)
> A coding camp is the opposite of hustling

Right on. I'm self taught before bootcamps were a thing. I learned by doing by launching a bunch of startup prototypes. Then I ran out of money so I started interviewing, went 1 for 1 and got a good 6 figure Rails job at a big corporation (skipping junior level), all with less than 1 year experience.

Many people getting into coding I talk to think this path is too hard and that a bootcamp somehow looks good on a resume and is therefore safe.

The same arguments can be made for startup accelerators. You really don't need one if you're a hustler who can build businesses. Thus they also attract some percentage of people who want a "safe" approach for their resume.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by ALittleLight on Thursday April 15, 2021 @10:57PM (#26828887)
I think a good coding camp is a plausible route to an entry level dev position. I know a Google dev who got there via a coding camp.

I wouldn't describe it as a hack or hustle though. It's basically learn the skills required, demonstrate your knowledge, then interview and get a matching job.