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Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by pcthrowaway on Thursday April 15, 2021 @08:32PM (#26827916)
If you're not currently working, I'd recommend a staffing agency, Uber Eats, Taskrabbit, Instacart, etc. There are ways to start making money right now that might keep you from being homeless. And being homeless is going to set you back.

Don't put any of the above on your resume.

What are you looking for? You haven't really elaborated on what your skills are except for alluding to a possible penchant for security research. If that's really what you want to do (and you think you have enough knowledge of networking technologies and security practices that it's really your best path forward), do that!

If you hunt for bug bounties, and blog about your findings (even if you don't hit any), that's going to be a really good way for potential employers to audit your capabilities.

If you're looking to get into software development, publish some work on github or get involved with an open source project. Even filing issues is a great way to showcase your ability to work within a team and contribute. QA is often a great stepping stone into the world of software engineering, and (depending on the type of QA), you really just need to be computer literate, dedicated, and capable of working with a team. Those are things you can demonstrate on github.

It's not going to be an easy path forward, but getting some income you can live off of right now, then pouring all of your energy into working in the open is going to be your best path to getting hired. You don't have the resume to get the kinds of jobs your looking for, and it sounds like you haven't even had the kinds of jobs that would look impressive to potential employers

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by snakedoctor on Thursday April 15, 2021 @09:17PM (#26828220)
I saw some people in Austin who did gig work like uber etc. I've thought about it. I'm a very anxious driver though. I've though about working in a Amazon warehouse. There's one near me. But they don't get health benefits for 3+ months. Have to do intense manual labor etc. EA QA was the most toxic place I ever worked at. Belittling people, thinking that all testers are incompetent etc. I have back pain, and dental issues which is why I mention insurance a lot.
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by qsi on Friday April 16, 2021 @02:13AM (#26830177)
> I've though about working in a Amazon warehouse. There's one near me. But they don't get health benefits for 3+ months. Have to do intense manual labor etc.

I think you need to focus on your priorities here. As I understand you're currently jobless and obviously have no health benefits, and are on the verge of becoming homeless. Doing three months of "intense manual labor" to get a paycheck and health benefits is (in my view at least) far preferable to being homeless and penniless.

My perception of your reply is that you think the Amazon warehouse job is beneath you; does homelessness appeal more? Seriously, at this stage, in the very short run, your number one priority should be to avert homelessness, and do whatever it takes. I know you mentioned back pain, but if the Amazon warehouse isn't your thing, there should be something else you can do to tide you over.

More broadly as lot of commenters have very kindly offered to talk to you and help you in various ways. That is an immense gift! Make use of it, and don't make them regret offering their assistance.

You're in a bad place mentally right now, but you're young, you're not stupid and you can get out of this, but you need to be willing to put in the effort. Asking the question here is a very good first step.

Lastly, you may also want to visit Ask A Manager [1] which has a lot of good advice on cover letters, resumes, interviewing, etc. It's not tech-specific, but most of the advice applies universally.

Good luck!

[1] https://www.askamanager.org/

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by pcthrowaway on Thursday April 15, 2021 @11:00PM (#26828910)
Also, forgot to mention, I was recently working "QA" for 5 years. Transitioned into that from full-stack webdev and am back in webdev again. QA in my case was actually very technical, required deep knowledge of web application deployment mechanisms, occasional debugging of web app code, a variety of languages, and writing tons of bash and CI configuration, some tests, and automating cloud things.

I won't lie and say it was as fun as traditional programming. But QA means a lot of different things, and just because you had a really bad experience with it (and I've heard terrible things about EA in general, not just their QA department), you should definitely be looking at QA for job opportunities that will meet your needs. Realistically you're going to be better suited to a lot of QA jobs right now, and employers are going to be more open to taking a chance on you given your history.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by maccard on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:51AM (#26830849)
QA in video games is not an engineering role. It's usually a butts-in-seat role where you're expected to dilligently follow a task list without deviating in the slightest. You're expected to follow the checklist, on repeat. If you have initiative, save it for after work.

More senior qa roles will be designing test suites, maybe even developing them, but entry level game QA is not going to scratch a dev itch.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by pcthrowaway on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:43PM (#26839858)
I was only elaborating on this because I suggested QA as an entry point to software engineering, and OP seemed to write it off because they had a bad experience in a QA role that was very different from what I was suggesting.
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by creddit on Friday April 16, 2021 @08:51AM (#26833243)
> But they don't get health benefits for 3+ months.

This isn’t true? https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/operations/healthcare-from-...

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by pcthrowaway on Thursday April 15, 2021 @09:35PM (#26828355)
I don't know if this is possible in Austin, but Uber eats allows bicycle delivery (almost definitely available in Austin), and "on foot" delivery as well. Other delivery companies may have similar programs.

Instacart (in some locations) allows you to sign up just to do the shopping (then the drivers pick it up).

Taskrabbit will definitely have some things you can do without driving as well.

Just explore the options; something where you can set your own schedule would be really nice while you're job hunting and interviewing.