Re:Effective altruism is not effective
by coldtea on Thursday April 15, 2021 @01:39PM
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People like me, who don't consider it being altruistic or not as orthogonal to the success of the second part.
>Are you using 'orthogonal' to mean "unrelated to", or do you mean "in opposition to"?
I'm using it to mean "unrelated to" (canonical CS meaning of "orthogonal" as well).
But, here's the catch, note that I used a double negative in my phrasing. so, I'm not saying they are othogonal, I'm saying they're not orthogonal. That is, I don't consider "being altruistic or not as orthogonal to the success of the second part" (the second part being the "helping" we were discussing).
So, it's not that "personal benefit in any form invalidates altruism", it's that lack of altruism works against effectivly helping people.
>Are you using 'orthogonal' to mean "unrelated to", or do you mean "in opposition to"?
I'm using it to mean "unrelated to" (canonical CS meaning of "orthogonal" as well).
But, here's the catch, note that I used a double negative in my phrasing. so, I'm not saying they are othogonal, I'm saying they're not orthogonal. That is, I don't consider "being altruistic or not as orthogonal to the success of the second part" (the second part being the "helping" we were discussing).
So, it's not that "personal benefit in any form invalidates altruism", it's that lack of altruism works against effectivly helping people.