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Re:Effective altruism is not effective by heavenlyblue on Thursday April 15, 2021 @04:23AM (#26817613)
Effectiveness of charities has exactly the same problems as efficient market hypothesis: markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. Or in other words, charities can remain full of shit for longer than you have money for.
Re:Effective altruism is not effective by TeMPOraL on Thursday April 15, 2021 @04:33AM (#26817679)
Yes, and the same rules apply:

- Don't invest more than you can comfortably lose.

- Don't throw away the entire concept just because it's not perfect.

- Get better at telling who's full of shit, or delegate it to someone you trust.

Re:Effective altruism is not effective by Dracophoenix on Thursday April 15, 2021 @11:44AM (#26821873)
Don't 2 & 3 contradict each other in this case? Throwing away the yoke of institutional giving is predicated upon recognizing that overhead and start up costs eat up transferable dollars.
Re:Effective altruism is not effective by TeMPOraL on Thursday April 15, 2021 @12:32PM (#26822673)
They're complementary.

#2: Just because there are charities or companies that do bad things, doesn't mean the concepts of charities and companies, or philanthropy and markets, are fundamentally broken. There are good and bad charities/companies, even though it may be hard to tell which is which.

#3: You can make your donations more effective if you get better at telling which charity is good (same for investments and companies). There are diminishing returns on effort here - particularly if you aren't planning to specialize in charity evaluation. In that case, you can convert this problem into an easier problem of finding trustworthy specialists in charity evaluation, and donating to places they consider good/effective.

Re:Effective altruism is not effective by wizzwizz4 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @05:04AM (#26817968)
That's why we have charity evaluators like GiveWell. https://www.givewell.org/
Re:Effective altruism is not effective by jimbokun on Thursday April 15, 2021 @10:23AM (#26820859)
Now consider how long a government can remain irrational.