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Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by qeternity on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @05:33PM (#26813394)
“Stolen”

This is Bitfinex we’re talking about. It’s a company run by criminals.

Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by arcticbull on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @05:34PM (#26813414)
Fun little reminder that when Bitfinex was "hacked" they took a 36% haircut, if memory serves, from all account holders, in all assets -- not just Bitcoin. [1]

Except for one account. Coinbase. [2]

They then issued tokens to all the accounts they skimmed, valued at $1 each redeemable for shares in Bitfinex. They effectively converted a $72 million dollar theft (at the time) into a $72 million dollar valuation for Bitfinex.

One of their executives, Giancarlo, was recorded telling token holders the best way to get their money back was to sell their shares to other people before they realized. [3]

> “The fastest way to get paid back, is to convert debt to shares and then sell your shares to another shareholder”.

These people run Tether.

This is the true magic of cryptocurrency.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bitfinex-hacked-hongkong-...

[2] https://www.kalzumeus.com/2019/10/28/tether-and-bitfinex/

[3] https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/bitfinex-never-repaid-their-t...

Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by rabf on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @07:05PM (#26814216)
The loss became tradable on their exchange, the swap for equity was optional, their was also a token for for representing the return of the stolen funds that was trading as well. Eventually the tokens representing the losses were trading for an equal value to the loss so if you were a little patient you were reimbursed. Alternatively if you took the gamble to buy the debt tokens at below dollar parity you made a nice return. Meanwhile MtGox users are still waiting for legal proceedings to conclude and get their money back.
Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by arcticbull on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @09:00PM (#26815042)
The exchange of the 36% of assets for the token is a kind of fraud called conversion. [1] That it happened to work out is honestly completely irrelevant. Just as Madoff wouldn't have gotten off scott free if he'd happened to find a way to make people whole.

[1] http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/elements-conversion

Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by rabf on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @07:07PM (#26814230)
After the Mtgox hack mtgox debt was breifly tradable on website called bitcoinbuilder iirc. Financial innovation at its finest.
Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by plebianRube on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @07:00PM (#26814177)
Seems to me the root problem is when people decide to use Bitcoin outside of it's original intended use, and centralize it.
Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by arcticbull on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @09:01PM (#26815053)
Well, that's because it's completely inadequate for it's intended use (due to its 2-3 tx/sec cap) forcing people into L2.
Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by creepto on Thursday April 15, 2021 @04:19PM (#26825636)
I love Tether.

3 Billion printed this week, back then they should've just printed 72 mil USDT.

Re:$7.5B In Stolen Bitcoin from 2016 Bitfinex Hack has just ... by arcticbull on Thursday April 15, 2021 @10:28PM (#26828701)
Should just print a trillion or two, you know, in reserve. "Authorized but not issued" is what they call it right?