China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline

Re:China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline by KaiserPro on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @06:49AM (#26805306)

I don't think thats a counter point! Depending on which time frame you are talking about, the ottoman empire was a cosmopolitan fairly free empire. There was freedom of religion (of sorts, there was a tithe.) and a civil law system that appeared to have some semblance of working for the lay man.

If you compare the treatment of jews in venice, parts of the ottoman empire were a haven. Spain's loss was the ottoman's gain.

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Re:China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline by gher-shyu3i on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @05:27PM (#26813341)

That's why I said they were not "progressive" in the modern Western sense. Islam is able to perfectly accommodate different cultures, and lead the host society to prosperity.

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Re:China is betting that the West is in irreversible decline by KaiserPro on Thursday April 15, 2021 @06:20AM (#26818558)

but they were progressive, comparative to the western world at the time. Hence why they were a mecca (excuse the pun) for creative and scientific types.

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