> Provide information on warning signs of suicide risk as well as hotline and treatment resources. At a minimum, include the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline and Crisis Text Line (listed below) or local crisis phone numbers.
https://reportingonsuicide.org/
I don't think I would expect this from a scientific paper but it doesn't seem inappropriate for HN.
Can I flip this around? Why did you feel compelled to post that, in particular the last clause ("data as opposed to a feeling") which seems surprisingly dismissive of a position on a subject that by your own admission you lack expertise with?
I'll be honest: that looks like anti-woke virtue signalling if I ever saw it.
Is it adequate, does it cover the use case of people that don’t want to be here anymore?
Does the common sense have any peer reviewed backing? (I previously wrote quantitative, which I would like to evaluate in the peer reviewed study)
If my question provided no introspection for you, do you really think asking me my own question provided introspection for me? I am still left curious. Still lacking the context, I think the current approach is feelings based, emotion, based on heavy reactive assumptions that don’t address anything, but I don't actually know.
Regarding the phrasing, I’m actually trying not to come across with my actual pretty negative opinions of this because I’m hoping someone will actually explain the cause and effect before I make those conclusions known.
Explain the common sense, if the answer is “actually only a small sliver of some suicide is adequately addressed by simply talking about and we have no study and no other information about the other suicides” then just say that. I would be a lot more content if people were just able to say that or cite some other stat. As opposed to copypasta and group think.
I’m not necessarily convinced that “help” is the right word for all use cases, and think people just don't want to honestly talk about. So lets just start with the basics of basics, why are we doing this.
This is more taunting hyperbole. It doesn't leave me with the impression that you want to take this seriously, and more that you want to position yourself in yet another culture war skirmish.