Re:US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
by fspeech on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @02:38PM
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It is CVST not just blood clots. There are a lot more blood clots with or without the vaccine. CVST is rare so is the proverbial canary in the coal mine here.
The CVST incidents give a lower bound on risk. The trial data give a rough upper bound on risk (rough due to the small sample size). Knowledge is being refined here. We can't make educated choices without knowledge.
Re:US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
by josefx on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @03:22PM
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> They are not giving people an educated choice
Hard to give people an educated choice without looking into the issue first. Once they know what is going on it will most likely be back to normal. There was a similar issue in Europe, but that neatly overlapped with a delivery shortage of the affected vaccine.
Re:US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
by FunnyLookinHat on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @01:42PM
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Sorry you are correct - I should have been more specific in my wording.
We should give people an educated choice. With unknown side effects we are not doing that. Thank you for pointing that out.
Re:US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
by lghh on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @01:57PM
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It is impossible to rule out unknown side effects. The blood clots are now known. Any side effect that is unknown will always remain unknown. You could always be the first person to experience a symptom, whether it's Tylenol or this vaccine.
Re:US agencies call for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccine
by 8note on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @02:31PM
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We should be very specific though: If you take this vaccine, there's a 1 in 10 billion chance that a meteor strikes the pharmacy while you're in it.
Make sure you cover every possible thing, no matter how unlikely.
They are not giving people an educated choice, they are taking that choice away until they deem it okay to give it back. Education is knowing that 7/7,000,000 had a blood clot + the other tests that were done leading up to its release. We know that now. We're educated.