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Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by gobonobo on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @02:26AM (#26788750)
The Max Blumenthal fan club want everyone to think Philip Cross is some sort of CIA bogeyman that controls Wikipedia. He's prolific, but far less influential than he's made out to be.
Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by pydry on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @03:36AM (#26789216)
He's more prolific than any person would be. There's no indication he's a person and every indication that his persona is run by an institution that doesn't like anti war campaigners.

Craig Murray graphed his contributions here:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/05/the-philip-c...

In fairness his views do seem to match up with Jimbo Wales (who is, as a good friend of Tony Blair/Gordon Brown, not exactly anti war). He might be an institutional construct but there's plenty of institutions other than the CIA he could be fronting.

It's also possible he's basically a sockpuppet for Jimmy Wales, judging by the way he lashes out on Twitter at people questioning who Philip Cross really is.

So he clearly is pretty influential.

Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by throwaway81523 on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @05:46AM (#26790122)
The Craig Murray graph is completely misleading. It was not generated by Murray, it was generated by Wikipedia, and Murray apparently saw it, misunderstood it, flipped out, and put it on his own site. It is discussed rather thoroughly in the Wikipedia proceedings. It doesn't mean anything like what it looks like. Of course generating the misleading graph is Wikipedia's fault, but it was intended for something else altogether.
Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by pydry on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @06:45AM (#26790479)
Is there a link to this discussion somewhere that disproves the notion that the account is a 9-5 editing machine?
Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by Kim_Bruning on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @10:16AM (#26792430)
It was actually technically findable with links presented in this HN discussion, but I've dug down to the relevant bit to save you some time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests...

Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by pydry on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:35PM (#26876991)
Somebody is definitely downplaying him here. Im not seeing any data to support that though.
Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by throwaway81523 on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @02:11AM (#26803522)
Disproves? It's a stupid premise to begin with. But yes, you can look at the account's editing history. There is a timestamp on every edit. It is nothing like how Murray imagined.
Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by k1m on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:21AM (#26789548)
If a banned Wikipedia editor was responsible for 56% of the content of your Wikipedia page, would you not be concerned?
Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by rurban on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @02:37AM (#26788822)
Well, being paid by the CIA or MI5 is the most likely theory. But point is the agenda, not the affiliation.

Not all the goons are influental, but he is (like most media figures), and their policies and practices align.

Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by luckylion on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @03:14AM (#26789047)
> Well, being paid by the CIA or MI5 is the most likely theory.

"Most likely theory"? What? The most likely theory is that he's convinced of his worldview. There are incredible amounts of people who are true believers of whatever they subscribe to. They're certainly not all paid, or we'd see much larger intelligence budgets everywhere.

Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by notahacker on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:34AM (#26789625)
One hypothesis involves intelligence agencies being unaware that it is possible to edit from other Wikipedia accounts and having opinions almost as strong on jazz as geopolitics.

The other relies on there being a person with a lot of time on his hands who generally believes what he reads in the Times and responds to provocation on Twitter, and George Galloway not jumping to the correct conclusion.

Re:A Wikipedia editor's campaign to discredit anti-war campa... by pjc50 on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @02:50AM (#26788899)
Of course someone who works for Russian state TV is going to say their enemies are CIA.