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Re:I am stepping down from Perl Steering Council and Core by btilly on Monday April 12, 2021 @04:50PM (#26785002)
The old FOSS model is not compatible with the kind of people who are being drawn into it these days. It worked decently with thick-skinned, more-or-less autistic men who communicated relatively infrequently over email and had an understanding that they weren't beholden to anybody.

I don't think it worked as well in the good old days as you think.

A lot of Perl's problems can be attributed to one of those old men, Tom Christensen. He combined technical brilliance with a flair for flaming, and was at the center of why p5p (perl 5 porters) became a hostile flame-fest. With the result that the 5.6.x series was a complete disaster. And the problems were so bad that as http://strangelyconsistent.org/blog/happy-10th-anniversary-p... describes, in 2000 Jon Orwant (editor of The Perl Journal) brought attention to it by smashing mugs against a wall.

The current spat is much less dramatic than that one was. You just know about it because it is current.

People claim that Perl's problems began with Perl 6. But in fact Perl 6 was one piece of Larry Wall's solution to a rather urgent problem. And that problem was how to separate people who wanted to create new features from people who wanted absolute backwards compatibility. Like Tom Christensen. (Who Larry Wall also told to calm down.) And ideas from Perl 6 also made their way back to Perl 5 in various ways. Yes, it became a branding problem. But if it didn't happen, Perl was set to implode on itself much more dramatically, much more quickly.

Re:I am stepping down from Perl Steering Council and Core by b2gills on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @11:48PM (#26885225)
I saw a bit of that when someone on P5P mentioned that perltoot (Tom's object-oriented tutorial for perl) didn't exist anymore.

His argument for keeping it was simple. https://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2012/05/m...

    Wanna bet? :)
    
It came across to me as being abrasive, and a bit dismissive.

It didn't help that his photo showed up next to it in my email.

Re:I am stepping down from Perl Steering Council and Core by tp69 on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @07:36PM (#26814460)
"Perl 6 was one piece of Larry Wall's solution to a rather urgent problem. And that problem was how to separate people who wanted to create new features from people who wanted absolute backwards compatibility. ... But if it didn't happen, Perl was set to implode on itself much more dramatically, much more quickly."

Care to expand on this a little, or suggest an external resource where it has already been elaborated upon?

Re:I am stepping down from Perl Steering Council and Core by lizmat on Monday April 12, 2021 @05:09PM (#26785224)
What btilly said!