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Re:RMS addresses the free software community by TheRealDunkirk on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:13PM (#26781120)
> RMS is a statutory rape apologist, and a defender of a pedophile.

Wasn't the entire point of his post to refute this interpretation of what happened? Does no one else notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by visarga on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:22PM (#26781293)
No, it's what ideology does to people. It makes us value abstract ideas over real persons. It's all based on ideas of purity and that impure people are somehow deserving of cancellation. If you side with "impure" persons, or even if you don't condemn them strongly enough, you're becoming impure yourself, that is their logic.

And for all this interest in purity they don't actually care about the people, their work, their aspirations, only that they obey the ideology.

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by imwillofficial on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:35PM (#26781495)
Yes, it is 100% idiology. I think pushing the idea that sex with minors is ok, is morally wrong. I think defending those who victimize others is morally wrong. I think victimizing students that you have influence over with poorly thought out advances is morally wrong.

This is my moral opinion on the subject. Infinitely subjective.

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by visarga on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:42PM (#26781614)
You think and you act by taking part in the cancellation game where you got nothing to lose and only to win by pushing others down. How about we judge a person by the totality of his work and actions, not just those which play well in the "game"?
Re:RMS addresses the free software community by imwillofficial on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:33PM (#26781466)
I reject his explanation. Plain and simple. I have read RMS’ own statements I have read firsthand accounts of his victims. I formed my own opinion.
Re:RMS addresses the free software community by rvz on Monday April 12, 2021 @01:28PM (#26782337)
So no point in 'apologies' of any sort. Let the cancellations continue and the medieval mob run wild over any letter spoken by this being.

Oh dear.

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by imwillofficial on Monday April 12, 2021 @04:29PM (#26784743)
I don’t buy an apology after it blows up in His face when it is behavior that has been demonstrated, tolerated, and covered up for 20+ years.
Re:RMS addresses the free software community by d_tr on Monday April 12, 2021 @02:48PM (#26783447)
This text is so exactly what I thought he should write, based on my understanding of him. It is 100% sincere and made me happy.
Re:RMS addresses the free software community by _-david-_ on Monday April 12, 2021 @01:01PM (#26781916)
The person you are responding to is probably not strictly talking about the Minsky/Epstein stuff but adding in Stallman's other statements.

"I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing."

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by keonix on Monday April 12, 2021 @06:59PM (#26786232)
It was 18 years ago, he changed[0] his views later, but nobody mentions that for some reason...

[0] https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September...

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by ebcode on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @03:45AM (#26789276)
Since a lot of people will read this page, but won't follow the link, I'm posting RMS' quote from your link:

> Many years ago I posted that I could not see anything wrong about sex between an adult and a child, if the child accepted it.

> Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm per psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should not do that. I am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why.

I think this quote demonstrates pretty well what kind of person RMS is. He's somewhere on the spectrum (aren't we all), and entirely human. He's grappling with his own beliefs, entertaining possibilities, and actively working to change his beliefs to be a better person.

I think so much of the current outrage is really about our society in general, and we're in desperate need of scapegoats because we can't actually target society at large, we can only "target" individuals.

That said, I'm just gonna leave this here: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1656/1656-h/1656-h.htm

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by imwillofficial on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @12:21AM (#26802911)
I’m actually against “cancel culture”. However, when children are involved, such disgusting comments don’t get a pass. Ever.

Just because He is on the spectrum doesn’t give him some pass to justify the rape of children. I will never forgive that.

If He is so addled with disability that He can’t understand why what He is saying is beyond the pale, why doesn’t He just shut the fuck up?

His words indirectly and perhaps directly promoted the harm of innocent children. It certainly did nothing to protect them.

Re:RMS addresses the free software community by imwillofficial on Monday April 12, 2021 @04:26PM (#26784715)
Correct. Sorry you’re getting downvoted for something I should have made more clear.