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Re:Everyone is still terrible at creating software at scale by kclay on Saturday April 10, 2021 @11:29AM (#26762166)
In these cases wouldn't it have been to work on it slowly as a "side project" outside of the team normal priorities? I always tell my team if they can fit it in and not hinder the current sprint by all means go ahead and do it on the side.

I know this goes against the normal and people want to attach "right now " value (hours it took reflected on check) but going beyond the call can also give you leverage when your yearly review comes up for example.

Re:Everyone is still terrible at creating software at scale by hpoe on Saturday April 10, 2021 @04:14PM (#26764717)
I'll also add I only have so much energy in the day, and after a couple of years of fighting against problems I coudn't do anything about and managers who couldn't make the changes, and customers that wanted it now, I burnt out, and instead of spending a useless zoom meeting to work on an improvement I use it instead to make maps for the D&D campaign I am running.
Re:Everyone is still terrible at creating software at scale by Too on Sunday April 11, 2021 @03:10AM (#26768156)
While I've seen several examples of this being the only way to get out of never prioritized debt-cleanup that the team can't bother explaining to management in non-technical business-value terms. The reality is a sprint is always over-packed with stuff to do with zero room for side-projects and expecting people to work weekends on side-projects to solve company business needs is not exactly a sound strategy.

What one can do is is deliberately allot time to the team to work on any side-project as long as they are somehow attached to the business. There are ways to do this more organized, for example innovation-weeks or the famous Google-fridays.

Re:Everyone is still terrible at creating software at scale by tacitusarc on Monday April 12, 2021 @11:16AM (#26780308)
That can work assuming the team isn't already overloaded. But when people are being asked to work 60h a week or more to accomplish their tasks, it becomes untenable.
Re:Everyone is still terrible at creating software at scale by pdimitar on Saturday April 10, 2021 @02:41PM (#26763869)
That's exactly what I am doing and aside from a few wrist slaps people have been okay with such an approach. I always tell them I did this for a few hours during the weekend or while I was waiting our DevOps to resolve an outage these particular 2 hours the last Friday. Seems to work really well.