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Re:Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes by slg on Friday April 09, 2021 @09:09PM (#26758033)
You are arguing against points I never made.

I didn't accuse him of transphobia. I said he can't go a few months without new accusations of transphobia. That is just a fact. If you want, you can go through those Google results from a few comments back and try to refute those accusations. I don't care enough about Joe Rogan to try to prove anything about him.

I never said Spotify's policy was "a gold standard" or even "good policy". I'm not defending their actions in removing specific episodes. I have no idea why those specific episodes were removed. I simply started with a comment that this was an obvious eventuality due to Spotify's policy and what Rogan says (it is a simple fact that he is often accused of spreading hate speech, whether what he says is actually hate speech is almost irrelevant because the accusations alone are enough to know that he would eventually be perceived to have violated the policy).

Re:Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes by throwaway0xc on Friday April 09, 2021 @10:52PM (#26758538)
This is literally "The Glenn Beck".

"I didn't accuse him of being a Kenyan. I said he can't go a few months without new accusations of being a Kenyan. That is just a fact. If you want, you can go through those Google results from a few comments back and try to refute those accusations. I don't care enough about Barack Obama to try to prove anything about him."

Re:Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes by imgabe on Friday April 09, 2021 @10:01PM (#26758307)
Ok, if I understand correctly based on this and your original comment, you make two claims.

1. This was an "obvious eventuality"

2. This does not constitute mistreatment of Rogan by Spotify.

First, many of the episodes such as the Milo Yiannopoulos one predate the Spotify deal. Spotify knew what they were buying and should have said at the time what they were and were not willing to host. Only Spotify and and Rogan know for sure the details of what was in their contract, but from what Rogan has said on the show, they had agreed that Spotify would have no creative control and they would host the whole catalog. I doubt very, very much that anyone would engage in a 9-figure contract without spelling out these details. If Spotify has decided to renege on what they agreed to, I think that makes it both non-obvious that that would happen and mistreatment (they are not honoring the contract).

Whenever these controversies arise, if Rogan mentions them on the show at all he says that nobody from Spotify says anything to him about them and he gets no feedback from them at all about the content, since they aren't supposed to have any creative control over the show. Maybe he's lying, but if not, I think that would also be non-obvious and mistreatment if Spotify is telling Rogan there's no problem and then taking content down behind his back.

And just...I don't understand this attitude. "Well of course people will make baseless accusations, and you'll be punished because of them without anyone trying to figure out the facts! You know this will happen, so it's not a problem!" Like....yes, that's a problem.

"Of course you get sent to the gulag if someone accuses you of criticizing Stalin. You know it doesn't matter if it's true or not! You know all this, so it's not mistreatment! It's just an obvious eventuality!"

Re:Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes by hanselot on Saturday April 10, 2021 @05:08AM (#26760097)
When the narrative can't be twisted to their favor, they will simply cancel your responses. These are the same people that would argue cancel culture does not exist.

Edit: I say people, but realistically no human could exist with such flagrant disregard for logic and reasonable discourse.