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Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by criddell on Friday April 09, 2021 @11:40AM (#26751951)
> I stay away from organizations that have a table that will tell you how much you'll make after N years.

I don't think that's necessarily a characteristic of a union shop and if it is, those are probably minimums.

For example, professional baseball players and are unionized yet individuals can still negotiate salary.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by bko on Friday April 09, 2021 @11:45AM (#26752030)
That's true, but unionized spots have such a strong individualistic component to the work. However, in industries such as warehouse workers, the employee ability is a lot more uniform, so I doubt there would be provisions for superstars to negotiate salaries.

It would more likely be something akin to a teacher union, with teaching being in between performance athletes and uniform workers. And even there I don't think individual teachers have much power to negotiate salary, but I could be wrong.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by freewilly1040 on Friday April 09, 2021 @12:15PM (#26752419)
Why do you think the vagueness is in your favor? Especially for a warehouse worker, the job is doing rote tasks forever. Why wouldn’t they be able to project your salary into the future?
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by criddell on Friday April 09, 2021 @12:21PM (#26752499)
I think for a warehouse worker or any other job where people are basically fungible, unionizing is a no-brainer. Individuals have no leverage.

Unionizing can make sense for other types of jobs as well. The person I responded to mentioned their preference for having a direct relationship with an employer. To me, that means other types of places than warehouses because I doubt very much that many warehouse workers have a relationship with anybody above their direct supervisor.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by freewilly1040 on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:16PM (#26753211)
(oops, my comment was directed at the parent of the one I actually commented on)
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by pc86 on Friday April 09, 2021 @12:41PM (#26752738)
Surely you're not suggesting that professional atheletes' unions are in any way comparable to a union representing warehouse employees.
Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by criddell on Friday April 09, 2021 @12:53PM (#26752903)
I'm suggesting that if you are a valuable enough employee where you have a direct relationship with your employer (as the person I responded to said), you may still benefit from having a union like baseball players or screen writers. The wage table for those professions establishes a floor.

A warehouse employee is not likely to have any kind of relationship with anybody above their supervisor. They can only bargain collectively.