Re:Lisp as an alternative to Java (2000)
by Scarbutt on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @10:48AM
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"the application's entire data model is a big indistinguishable ball of mud," seems to be commenting discipline. And commenting discipline is always terrible.
From Rich Hickey's "History of Clojure"[1]:
Not all is rosy. Users perennially report dissatisfaction with the error reporting from the compiler and various macros. They are confused by Java’s stack traces. They face challenges maintaining and understanding, e.g., the data requirements of a codebase when a discipline around documentation has not been maintained.
Hickey is signaling here that "commenting discipline" is a must for working with Clojure.
Re:Lisp as an alternative to Java (2000)
by ithrow on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @11:41AM
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It's like difference between having to use something like mongodb vs postgres, in mongodb you have great flexibility but must have very high commenting discipline, in postgres, less so.
From Rich Hickey's "History of Clojure"[1]:
Not all is rosy. Users perennially report dissatisfaction with the error reporting from the compiler and various macros. They are confused by Java’s stack traces. They face challenges maintaining and understanding, e.g., the data requirements of a codebase when a discipline around documentation has not been maintained.
Hickey is signaling here that "commenting discipline" is a must for working with Clojure.
[1] https://download.clojure.org/papers/clojure-hopl-iv-final.pd...