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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by dathinab on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:24PM (#26716236)
The also hindered you in all kinds of ways like:

- You not getting a job.

- You losing a job.

- You getting "moved" to small villages (e.g. as a teacher).

And if they couldn't affect you they went for your relative. E.g. your children being bared from studying at a university even if they are qualified and so on.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by Tomte on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:49PM (#26716542)
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AOJdpzCN-4

The whole film is fantastic.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by eternalban on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @08:36PM (#26719139)
That is a fine film. The protagonists are, however, not ordinary citizens.

I'd highly recommend also watching Christian Petzold's Barbara [1]. It's an equally fine film, but it has a different focus.

Here, the heroine is an ordinary physician (played by Nina Hoss), banished from Berlin to some province. The film captures the nightmare for the ordinary citizen of authoritarian police states, including the depressing fact that nearly anyone in your life could be informing on you. We also see how cooperating with the state authorities can get you privileges, such as better housing.

[1]: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2178941/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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p.s.: this review is quite good. Almost felt like quoting it in full, as it is rather topical to the thread as well:

https://www.imdb.com/review/rw2764284/

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by romwell on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:19PM (#26716875)
As someone born in the USSR, I am fascinated by this movie.

It's very German, but also very Soviet, it's almost surreal.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by dvfjsdhgfv on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:40PM (#26716438)
> - You not getting a job. > - You losing a job.

These two seem to be getting more popular nowadays.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by WesolyKubeczek on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:14PM (#26716815)
Remember, it's only a no-no if the government does it.

If it's "we the people", it's totally fair and indicative of a very progressive and tolerant society. Or something.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by hoophoop on Thursday April 08, 2021 @07:22AM (#26737435)
> If it's "we the people", it's totally fair and indicative of a very progressive and tolerant society. Or something.

This is a very dishonest framing.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by vetinari on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:25PM (#26716953)
Oh, in socialistic countries it was also the collective of your comrades, it wasn't The Government either. Or so they said.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by ttt0 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:26PM (#26716961)
It's only okay when it happens to people I don't like, so whoever is considered a nazi or a communist this week (delete as appropriate). Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences, paradox of tolerance etc., you know the drill.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by WesolyKubeczek on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @05:02PM (#26717351)
The paradox of tolerance in and of itself is okay. We've seen already what happened if intolerance was tolerated, and way more than once.

However, the tightly guarded boundary between "tolerant" and "intolerant", as well as "context thereof" must be defined precisely and not be moved around according to one's mood, or depending on whether someone is losing an argument, or whether someone is in an outgroup or in an ingroup.

A good application of the paradox of tolerance requires integrity, which is a threatened species among human traits.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by betterunix2 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @07:37PM (#26718710)
In fact the law does forbid certain forms of discrimination by "we the people." You cannot deny someone a job on the basis of age, gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc. Redlining is illegal, discrimination in rentals is illegal (as the previous President discovered), etc.