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Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by brianwawok on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @11:30AM (#26713051)
How many people do you know that play 40+ hours of chess a week?

How many people do you know that don't work a job, are 25 and able bodied, and live at home with their parents to play chess?

How many people do you know that work a dead-end factory job, and come home and put all of their effort into chess over advancing their career?

I know of 0 for any of those for chess, but I can think of at least 100 people that this applies for video games.

Video games are great! I get it. But when it starts to be the purpose of life, it seems a very sad life.

Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by slightwinder on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @11:53AM (#26713395)
How many of those people do have intellectual potential that they waste in Factorio or Eve Online? How many of those people ended there because they played games? And how many started gaming because they were fed up with their lack of potential?

Maybe majority of gamers would been the type who would waste themself in a pub or on some other meaningless thing otherwise? I don't think it's so easy to answer those aspects without hard numbers.

Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by brianwawok on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:46PM (#26717189)
Hard to know!

Are gamers just a holding pattern for society, because we have passed peak employment - and just need to keep a chunk of society busy doing "nothing" ?

Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by cgh on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @12:31PM (#26713931)
Yeah, I'm blown away when I watch videos of people smashing Dark Souls 3 while almost never dying. Then I think of the 2000+ hours it must have taken to achieve that level of muscle memory and expertise.

Then again, they are making money with their Twitch streams and walkthroughs simply by being Souls experts. So who am I to say they are wasting anything?

Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by Splendor on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @11:38AM (#26713177)
I'm glad to see you're doing something more productive with your time.
Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by brianwawok on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @11:50AM (#26713352)
Hey hobbies are great. Everyone needs hobbies.

I don't live with my parents so I can post on hacker news.

Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by Splendor on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:45PM (#26716500)
Of course. How convenient that you're the exception.