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Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by gher-shyu3i on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @08:27AM (#26710950)
Don't give me this "civilized countries" false dichotomy. It's not only condescending, but wrong.

Taking a life can be a necessary evil. In "civilized countries" as how you put it, the next of kin has the choice on whether to forgive the killer or take blood money, or have him executed by the court. This is for one on one incidents. For other cases, such as serial rapists or serial killers, the decision is 100% in the hands of the court, as it is way bigger than a single interaction.

Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by implements on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @10:30AM (#26712192)
Taking a life can be necessary to protect one’s life or the life of others, but that isn’t the case in capital punishment as someone in custody is no longer a mortal threat to society.

Regarding civilised or not, perhaps this might be of interest:

https://goodessaysblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/23/capital-puni...

Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by gher-shyu3i on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @12:45PM (#26714139)
As typical of many of these writers, he's clearly showing his bias when looking at the world (namely, from a secular Western sense). The fact that it is failing in the current secular societies does not mean that it is ineffective in other societies, or that it is in itself bad. We don't have the problems he listed in Islam for example.

> but that isn’t the case in capital punishment as someone in custody is no longer a mortal threat to society.

It's not just about being a threat, it's about justice.

Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by LocalH on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @05:14PM (#26717461)
And what do you do if a person is falsely accused?
Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by gher-shyu3i on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @05:29PM (#26717628)
Under Islamic rules, suspicion would fend off the Hadd punishment: https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/17/2.