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Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by LocalH on Monday April 05, 2021 @09:15PM (#26706894)
Crime victims should honestly have zero input into the law. They're simply too emotionally invested to approach it rationally.
Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by mardifoufs on Monday April 05, 2021 @10:05PM (#26707198)
I think he's saying that if you completely ignore the "natural" desire of some the victims for at least some punishment you will just end up with said victims taking justice into their own hands. So if you are so lenient to the point where a lot of victims & society in general start disregarding the justice system because they think its unjust, you could just end up with a lot of extra judicial revenge.

In a way I kind of agree. Because while yes the victims shouldn't have a say in what sentence or punishment a perpetrator gets, taking it to the extreme and just completely disregarding the other party's grievances is probably dangerous and undermines the justice system. If you get a lot of people feeling that there is no justice to be had from the system, you end up with a super dangerous situation & I know how deeply that feeling can erode the social fabric since it happened in my home country.

Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by e_proxus on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @02:17AM (#26708544)
First of all, other systems in other societies point to that it is not the only possibility. Second, the laws and regulations transform how society views criminals. I think in more modern crime systems (I come from Sweden) criminals are often viewed as victims themselves and the main goal is rehabilitation (quite obvious since it will lead to the most reduction in crime over time).
Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by Trill-I-Am on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @02:19AM (#26708557)
Why do Americans believe vigilante justice is more inevitable than the citizens of other developed countries?
Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by CleaveIt2Beaver on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @10:57AM (#26712573)
Because we know the absurd amount of guns that surrounds us at any given time, and are acutely aware of how flimsy hunting and personal protection are as excuses for the intent behind the ownership of small arsenals.
Re:Why America's prisons are an unconstitutional moral horro... by adolph on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @08:33AM (#26710986)
Cant disagree! The knee-jerk reaction of “there aughtta be a law” to any wrong is part of the problem.