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Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by throwaway3699 on Monday April 05, 2021 @10:49AM (#26699757)
It's still silly. Imagine if you needed to purchase a license for the shape of plug that fits inside a standard plug socket - to build any appliance.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by rodgerd on Monday April 05, 2021 @06:43PM (#26705597)
Plenty of good, cheap DACs built in China (e.g. Topping) have an HDMI-shaped plug (IIS) that supports PCM-over-not-HDMI which happens to be compatible with HDMI sources, but don't dare mention HDMI because they don't want to pull in an interlocking, price-gouging nonsense from the US entertainment industry.

So you don't quite need a license for the shape of the plug, but you do need to pretend it's not something that it is.

Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by thedevelopnik on Monday April 05, 2021 @11:37AM (#26700420)
Oh yeah he and I still fundamentally disagreed, but it gave me some insight into Oracle’s position.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by bobmalone123 on Monday April 05, 2021 @11:01AM (#26699933)
Imagine if you had to pay a software developer 300K a year to design that API that you think it’s cool to steal.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by throwaway3699 on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:03PM (#26702335)
Someone had to design plug sockets too.