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Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by netdur on Sunday April 04, 2021 @06:35AM (#26688297)
Whatever been said on Egyptian TVs is mostly directed to Egyptians, as on going government propaganda, it does not reflect what will really happen for those cases.
Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by thendrill on Sunday April 04, 2021 @06:43AM (#26688350)
This exactly....

The whole statement was target towards the Egyptian audiance. Standard Arabic propaganda show.

Knowing how things work in Egypt. I bet the whole thing will be settled for a couple of million usd and an undisclosed amount of Marlboro packets...

Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by mucholove on Sunday April 04, 2021 @07:17AM (#26688518)
The comment may seem flippant—yet, having been a boarding clerk on a vessel ship captains would often offer cigarettes and scotch to save themselves some trouble.
Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by busterarm on Sunday April 04, 2021 @07:28AM (#26688583)
Indeed.

They have a bunch of angry pilots on their hands because they spent a whole week not able to collect any bribes.

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Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by busterarm on Sunday April 04, 2021 @07:08AM (#26688470)
The person you're commenting on grew up in Libya.

When they say "Standard Arabic propaganda show", they're speaking from personal experience. Calm down with your racism accusations -- that shit's dangerous.

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Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by busterarm on Sunday April 04, 2021 @07:42AM (#26688669)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26409524

It's literally at the top of page 2.

And no, that's not doxxing. It's not an identifying detail and it's something someone voluneteered about themselves.

It's perfectly fine to keep people accountable to their comment history and that's not even what's happening here.

Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by yellowapple on Sunday April 04, 2021 @08:01AM (#26688779)
Ah, didn't see that there were more pages. I guess I need some sleep.
Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by thendrill on Sunday April 04, 2021 @08:35AM (#26688939)
Overruled.

Not doxing because I have previously posted it on a public comment related to my Public Id.

Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by thendrill on Sunday April 04, 2021 @08:08AM (#26688815)
I am arabic. I grew up in Libya.

I have crossed arbic borders many times. Bribery is basically standard operating procedure.

Bottom line is Egypt will say many things just to "save face".

So off personal experience I wager that the settlement will be off the books...

If it is proven true it is not racist.

https://eu-asia.essca.fr/the-marlboro-canal-or-the-standardi...

Edit: just to one more thing... Yes Egypt is in theory in control of the Suez canal. But legaly they are just an operator operating under colonial rule. They never fully nationalized the Suze after the 57 wars.

Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by mattmanser on Sunday April 04, 2021 @08:47AM (#26689013)
Ok, sorry for saying that. It was wrong of me to assume a comment like that came from a European or American and was driven by bias and I apologise for doing so.

My wider point was that it's just politicians being politicans and happens everywhere, whether it's in Egypt, the UK, France, America, Brazil, China, the US, or Libya. Few governments ever want to admit weakness.

As for still being a colonial property, that ship sailed when we humiliatingly were forced to end the Suez war, and pretty much marked the end of the UK as a super-power. It's never going to be in UK hands again.

Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by thendrill on Sunday April 04, 2021 @10:15AM (#26689555)
That is true. And no worries about apologies.

In the end someone said that what we all do in the comment section is basically a self monologue, I do the same, and the more I realize that more nicer we would be in textual discord ;)

You are correct, politicians will be politicians. Problem is that arabic politicians are so driven by archaic traditional means like bloodlines and honor, that sometimes I wonder if it is as obvious for a person with non-arabic background as it is for a everyone else.

The problem with arabic governments is that they are, firsty, not really democratic, no matter what is being said. Second, alot of governence revolves around tradional and party relegious norms. Watch an Arabic debate on TV about homesexuality...

And third. They last for a very short time in comparison to the countries in power over them (France, GB, US)

There is alot of social and relational ties that end up being very important for people in power. In turn this translate to alot of "actions" that are easily seen as just a show from an Arabic perspective.

The problem for me arises of how far from what is said the final result would be, because most of it will be dictated by bribery in internal dealings.

Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by carlhjerpe on Sunday April 04, 2021 @02:46PM (#26691822)
It doesn't matter where someone comes from when commenting on the internet, you chose to assume racist intentions.

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. - HN Guidelines

Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by COGlory on Sunday April 04, 2021 @12:03PM (#26690565)
Thank you for the apology, it does the entire community here good when people take responsibility for all their comments, not just the popular ones.
Re:Egypt demands over $1B in damages after Suez Canal blockage by truetraveller on Sunday April 04, 2021 @02:51PM (#26691850)
+1 on the apology.