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Re:Uppestcase and Lowestcase Letters by munificent on Friday April 02, 2021 @01:52PM (#26673873)
> These suffice to let the speaker know how exactly to say the word unlike in English where it has to be learned case by case based on whatever is popular or acceptable pronunciation.

You can have three things:

1. A spoken language that evolves over time.

2. A writing system that accurately describes pronunciation.

3. A writing system that indicates history and etymology.

But you only get to pick two. English went with 1 and 3, which is arguably the optimal choice.

Re:Uppestcase and Lowestcase Letters by mwcampbell on Friday April 02, 2021 @01:59PM (#26673975)
Why do you think #3 is more important than #2? Why is preserving history and etymology more important than ease of learning for new writers? Put another way, why should kids have to struggle with spelling so we can have a writing system that preserves linguistic history?
Re:Uppestcase and Lowestcase Letters by munificent on Friday April 02, 2021 @04:42PM (#26675762)
Three reasons:

1. Because it's more important to know what words mean than it is to know how they sound.

My daughter reads a ton and learns a lot of words from reading. Fairly often, she mispronounces them, and that's OK. What's more valuable is that she can often infer the correct meaning of the word both from the surrounding context and from the parts that the word is made of. If we normalize spelling to match pronunciation, much of the latter gets lost.

It's easier to see that "mean" and "meant" are related than "meen" and "ment". "History" and "story" versus "histery" and "story".

2. Because pronunciation changes over time. If we continuously change spelling to match, it means older printed works get harder to read. In the worst case, they can appear to be saying different words than they intended.

3. Because pronunciation isn't uniform across regions.

Should "lawyer" be spelled "loyer" or "lawyer"? Is "crayon" spelled "crayon", "crayawn", "cran", or "crown"? Is it "caramel" or "carmel"?

Re:Uppestcase and Lowestcase Letters by mekkkkkk on Saturday April 03, 2021 @03:35AM (#26679025)
That's a fascinating idea. Where would you place Japanese and Chinese?
Re:Uppestcase and Lowestcase Letters by taejo on Saturday April 03, 2021 @12:23PM (#26682276)
1 and 3 to some extent. Japanese makes hardly any attempt at 2.