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Re:Jump in cancer diagnoses at 65 implies patients wait for ... by sokoloff on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @07:43PM (#26654713)
2 is a serious objection because while a government administered program promises to be cheaper in aggregate, it will almost surely not be cheaper for every individual/household, especially if you intend for or expect people to supplement or replace the government insurance with private insurance on top of the public option to get back to the level of the insurance they have today.

You could argue that 4-6 aren’t real objections either because most people aren’t in those fields either.

Re:Jump in cancer diagnoses at 65 implies patients wait for ... by arrosenberg on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @09:03PM (#26655474)
In the US the cost of healthcare is so ridiculous that underwriting the system and bargaining as a unit for things like equipment, disposables, and pharmacy will save the entire system billions of dollars of overhead/profit/graft (depending on your viewpoint) that currently go mostly to insurance companies and private equity healthcare groups. At some point you will be right that the harm outweighs the good for a sizable group, but we aren't there today.

> You could argue that 4-6 aren’t real objections either because most people aren’t in those fields either.

Way more money and influence though.

Re:Jump in cancer diagnoses at 65 implies patients wait for ... by koolba on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @09:17PM (#26655556)
> Way more money and influence though.

Bingo. 50 million poor people have less lobbying clout, ie dollars, than the medical or pharma industries.

It’s no coincidence that the ACA provided for money for insurance, without actually increasing the supply of actual medical care. Increasing insurance increases demand, provides a way for the existing industries to get paid, and overall raises the cost of care.

Now had they had a lick of sense and simply spent the same amount of money on setting up clinics (ie supply side), you’d see a drop in prices as existing providers would have to compete with a lower cost option.