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Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by brundolf on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:02PM (#26624845)
> You say that most Protestants are loving people

I didn't say that actually, though I also wouldn't say the inverse. I don't really know the exact answer, and I don't really think it's important here.

> Very few Christians seem to see the problems with that regime

It is important to note that Evangelical != Protestant, and Protestant != Christian, and Christian != Religious person. There are huge gaps between each sub-category and the parent category; evangelicals may be one of the larger categories in the U.S., and may be largely Trumpist (though even then, not all of them), but they hardly represent the whole of religion.

> the common denominator seems to be an undertone of selfishness and heartlessness

I feel an immense amount of anger towards Trump and his entire movement, not despite but because many of my family-members have aligned themselves with it. And yet, outside of those contexts, I still see them being good and kind to their loved ones and others. I've also come to see that their alignment is largely based in fear - which, even if it's ill-founded and driven by false narratives, is an emotion I can feel sympathy for. Wrestling with this dichotomy - seeing the evil they've confused with good and the ways it's changed them, while knowing that they are still my loved ones and they still contain some goodness underneath - has been one of the most stressful and difficult things I've had to grapple with in my entire life.

But one thing I've held onto from my religious days is the principle that human beings are not simply good or evil. All of us contain good and evil, and (both as individuals and as people with individuals that we care about) it's a question of identifying and nurturing the good, and trying to let go of the evil, each day anew.

Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by reducesuffering on Monday March 29, 2021 @02:49PM (#26626472)
> I feel an immense amount of anger towards Trump and his entire movement, not despite but because many of my family-members have aligned themselves with it.

> Wrestling with this dichotomy - seeing the evil they've confused with good and the ways it's changed them, while knowing that they are still my loved ones and they still have bits of good underneath - has been one of the most stressful and difficult things I've had to grapple with in my entire life.

Hear, hear. It was hard for this to come to a reckoning last year with everything else bad going on.