Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded ship refloated

Re:Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded... by stcredzero on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:19PM (#26624118)

Facts are supposed give rise to an emergent narrative. That is good journalism. What we have in 2021, are people curating facts and only including those that fit their pre-determined narrative.

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Re:Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded... by lukifer on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:30PM (#26625288)

While it would be naive to pretend that pre-determined narratives aren't a huge factor, I think that model leaves something out: that journalists and organizations are often incentivized to distort the facts into arbitrary narratives, based not on values or ideology, but on virality and cognitive/emotional stickiness. "Person X is a hero" and "Person X is a villain" will both tend to outcompete nuance ("Person X is flawed but well-intentioned and has done both good and bad things.").

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Re:Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded... by stcredzero on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:21PM (#26626939)

journalists and organizations are often incentivized to distort the facts into arbitrary narratives

Those aren't arbitrary. They are often pre-decided by higher ups in the company, or pre-decided as the prevailing groupthink in some forum or mailing list. People have been calling this stuff out online for years! Funnily enough, it stays out of the consciousness of normal people, because it's never covered in the mainstream news. Invariably, the people doing the exposing are then labeled something unsavory, so very few people bother to look into it. Some of this stuff is bunk. However, some of it is clearly real, and kinda disgusting.

Stuff like this has even been going on since the 80's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

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Re:Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded... by lukifer on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:09PM (#26629894)

No dispute: journalistic institutions are power concentrations that invite pressure from all sorts of private interests, in addition to prevailing internal groupthink. (In the Twitterati era, I'd say the latter problem is both top-down and bottom-up, and they compound much more often than they cancel out.)

What I'm saying is that even if one corrects for ideological motives, obsequiousness to power, etc., one is still left with an independent incentive towards maximizing eyeballs, and therefore torturing complex realities into digestible narratives, and that can be a problem in and of itself.

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Re:Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded... by WalterSear on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:01PM (#26624828)

Worse: the narrative is curated to elicit pre-determined emotional reactions.

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Re:Suez Canal says traffic in channel resumes after stranded... by stcredzero on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:52PM (#26625624)

In other words: Reality TV!

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