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Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by ketzo on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:02PM (#26623824)
Well, to pick a more contentious example, how would you find a marriage partner for that young women?

In many parts of the world, the answer is that her parents would either simply pick her partner or heavily influence her options. In much of the U.S., that would be unthinkable! How do we reconcile those different family values?

Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by jaywalk on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:34PM (#26624353)
How about the way my parents found each other: traditional dating?

Can we stop trying to go to absurd extremes with everything here?

Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by hexane360 on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:17PM (#26628985)
Unless you can demonstrate how to separate what you classify as "absurd extremes" from your cultural context, I think it's fair to use any examples of stable, religiously upheld, prosperous cultures to criticize traditionalism for the sake of traditionalism.
Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by EliRivers on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @11:47AM (#26636013)
Sounds like when you say "good old family values" you mean "the specific values I imagine my recent family to have had".

That's massively different to a lot, a LOT, of other people's family values.