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Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by delfinom on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:51AM (#26622561)
Take any quadcopter, attach high explosives to it, ram them into people and blow them up. While you are at it, throw on a cheap raspberry pi with some simple machine learned computer vision to target humans.

There, I made you afraid of cheap $100 quadcopters off Amazon and raspberry Pis.

Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by westpfelia on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:20PM (#26624149)
My duder you should watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HipTO_7mUOw

Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by simion314 on Monday March 29, 2021 @11:07AM (#26622840)
True, but there are like 1 billion more real world examples where this devices are used in production, so if you see a drone on the sky you think that is probably some kid with his toy, if you see the dog robot what scenario are you imagining ? (assume you are not on a big city with a university)
Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by serf on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:42PM (#26630477)
as someone who was into building quadcopters in the DIY drones community since somewhere around 2009, I can tell you that the majority of people who had the opportunity to see me flying my quadcopter (in the far-from-society rural wilderness, by the way) during the early days routinely bothered me about the danger of having such a large flying object, and whether or not I knew if anyone like me was placing weapons on-board.

Now you can buy larger quad-copters than I had built off the shelf.

Things change , people get used to it, opinions morph.

When robotic dogs and bipeds become more common place, people will become less threatened by them just due to sheer anxiety fatigue, if not more friendly reasons.

My take : when I see a robotic dog I think "That's a corporation with a spending budget!"

Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by SyzygistSix on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:47PM (#26624598)
I can't deny what you say is true but something about the Dog and Mule robots is very creepy and disturbing on a deep, visceral level that I don't get from quadcopters.
Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by imtringued on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:08PM (#26623934)
Most of them cannot carry any significant loads.
Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by PeterisP on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:08PM (#26628893)
Standard hand grenade is roughly 400g / 1 pound; 40mm grenade launcher ammo often is half a pound / 230 grams.

That's considered reasonably effective by the militaries, and fully within the capabilities of many cheap quadcopters.

Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by lanternfish on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:40PM (#26624471)
You don't need a very significant load to blow up a person.
Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by simion314 on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:02PM (#26624851)
I would like to see Myth Busters like video trying this versus other methods (probably is not legal though). If the target is a bit suspicious then i can't see them waiting for a drone to land on their head before it detonates. From I read on news still idiots with guns commit more terrorist attacks. My intuition is that we will see robot dogs with machine guns mass shootings rather then AI drone dropping a grenade.
Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by PeterisP on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:04PM (#26628833)
I recall videos of quadcopters dropping grenades and mortar rounds (for accuracy - they can drop one within a trench or at the door of a trench-shelter, unlike firing a mortar from distance) as improvised weapons a few years ago in the Ukraine Donbass conflict.

More advanced "loitering munitions" (essentially, drones that fly around until they're sent to slam into a target) were used in the recent Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

I believe that all these cases were human-in-the-loop for various reasons, but the possibility for automated targeting seems reachable soon if the armies would really want it (which is not certain).

Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by EthanHeilman on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:16PM (#26625075)
In Syria and Iraq quadrotors with bombs were used pretty extensively, first by ISIL and then later by the Iraqi state. They were used to target small groups of infantry and vehicles [0].

In another case, small CoTS RC planes did significant damage to a Russian airbase in Syria [1].

[0]: Death From Above: The Drone Bombs of the Caliphate https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2017/02/10/death-drone-...

[1]: Russia Offers New Details About Syrian Mass Drone Attack, Now Implies Ukrainian Connection https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17595/russia-offers-ne...

Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by simion314 on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:29PM (#26625268)
This big drones also make me anxious, the difference they did not popup on HN or my Youtube, the only drones I seen before today were the ones used for filming. So yeah an AI controlled large done with face recognition and machine guns also gives me chills, I am thinking that at this moment some military dudes are creating strategies to combine the dogs and drones to create a "police" force somewhere.
Re:Boston Dynamics unveils Stretch, a robot designed to move... by EthanHeilman on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @12:58PM (#26637114)
You don't need a machine gun. If you are using computer aiming and stabilization at close distances, it would almost never miss. A suppressed tube of subsonic .22lr would be quiet, accurate, and very light.