Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by iamgopal on Monday March 29, 2021 @02:18AM
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And given the sand density, much larger volume.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by skrause on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:01AM
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Boats don't have a high density. It has to be lower than water or they won't float.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by praptak on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:36AM
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The Titanic does not float.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by jacquesm on Monday March 29, 2021 @07:37AM
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Fair cop.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by praptak on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:29AM
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I was trying to hint at the fact that "boat density" is not a very well defined concept.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by jacquesm on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:40AM
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Hehe, but still, it is a very funny remark and it points to a large assumption in the gggp: that all boats will float. They do, right up until you smash them into icebergs and such.
On a technicality such an event changes their density considerably, assuming we take that to mean 'everything inside the volume circumscribed by the hull', after all, whether you insert all that water through a hole in the front or in the top doesn't really matter, as long as the air gets displaced that will do the job nicely.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by praptak on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:13AM
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Yup, that's what I meant although it is not exactly "volume of the hull". The boat density should be something like "density as you would calculate it for any solid object" plus "all air below the water line". So solid parts always count and air only counts if its below the water line.
This way Titanic counts as just a heap of steel (and doesn't float) and Ever Given counts as steel-air mix (and floats).
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by jacquesm on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @04:52AM
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How to tell if your ship has sunk: the waterline is above your superstructure.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by liquidify on Monday March 29, 2021 @12:55AM
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Is this due to U.S. military involvement? I remember reading they were sending dredging experts.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by Clewza313 on Monday March 29, 2021 @01:00AM
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Even in normal operations the canal is being dredged continually, since it's basically a channel dug into sand that's continually dissolving in the water. Check out the cross sections here: it's much wider and more shallow (gradient up to 4:1) than you might think.
https://www.suezcanal.gov.eg/English/About/SuezCanal/Pages/C...
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by tpmx on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:09AM
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They have a fleet of ~13 dredgers of different types:
https://www.dredgepoint.org/dredging-database/owners/suez-ca...
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by Fronzie on Monday March 29, 2021 @02:03AM
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The Dutch company Smit (part of Boskalis) was hired for this job.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by aryehof on Monday March 29, 2021 @02:38AM
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This isn’t a Hollywood movie. Another country is actually considered to be the expert in such matters.
Re:Giant Ship Is Moved To and Fro to Break Suction: Suez Update
by fermienrico on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:34AM
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Why a snarky response to a harmless question? The person asking the question didn’t say anything about US expertise or Egyptian expertise.
It’s considered condescending to send help in dire situations?
Damn, everyone is on the edge these days.
Impressive. That's around 55,000 metric tons of wet sand, or a bit more than the mass of the Titanic.