Yes, it was after Epstein was originally arrested for having sex with a minor. Epstein's actions were no secret. Those that worked and associated with him knew what he was up to. This is a good article that lays out how this was common knoweledge:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/jeffrey-ep...

> This is a good article that lays out how this was common knoweledge:

The article names three different people who claim to have had no idea. Maybe they're lying, but I hadn't heard about Epstein before either, so I'm inclined to believe them. I don't think you can claim that it was "common knowledge". (Did you know?)

If you know someone personally, you generally know more about them than people who don't. The fact that you don't know my mother has a bankruptcy in her past doesn't speak at all to whether I'm likely or expected to know that my mother has had a bankruptcy in her past.

The fact that so many people knew about Epstein in 2008, it being a hugely reported on arrest and indictment, makes it even more damning. The idea that I knew and they didn't is absurd.

I'll throw out an idea I mentioned in another comment.

I feel like if you're a guy like Epstein and you do that stuff at scale. I suspect you actually are really good at judging people as far as "is this person going to be cool / interested in this" and identifying the folks whom it would be risky to let on about some of that dark stuff. In fact it seems like he would be likely REALLY good at all that and related such manipulation.

Other cases like at Michigan State you had a lot of people who knew about the guy there, but also near to him folks who it would seem really didn't know / didn't have anything to hide.

What makes you think the super powerful, rich and "smart" people associated with Epstein, weren't also a good judge of character or aware of who they were dealing with? As is documented throughout this thread, many of them met with Epstein after his high profile arrest for having sex with a minor.

I think there signifigant a difference as far as what you know goes from being a good judge of someone and deciding to share something with them VS. figuring out they have some massive abusive sex ring going on.

Not only did a lot of these people interact with Epstein after he was convicted of having sex with a child, they actively worked to get him off the hook:

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/07/17/steven-pinker...

I'm not sure what that has to do with my post.

Your claim is that they didn't know what Epstein was up to. That's pretty clearly not the case.

There are many articles that detail the kind of things Epstein would tell these people and how he'd behave around them:

* https://slate.com/technology/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-science...

* https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2019/08/jeffrey-ep...

* https://newrepublic.com/article/154826/jeffrey-epsteins-inte...

He always had girls around him. I don't believe that one could associate with Epstein and be ignorant of who he was.

> Was this all after the Epstein stuff came out?

What do you think "as a tool to rehabilitate his image" suggests?

I don't think that implies when he received it. I assumed that he could receive benefits at one point in time, and later use that "as a tool to rehabilitate his image".

Well then yes, 2010 to 2018 is after he went to jail in 2008.

I would also like to know. Of course they violated rule number 1: make the university look good.