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Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by kepler1 on Saturday March 27, 2021 @02:42PM (#26604416)
Ah, classic selection bias blinders on. Sure, great benefits for those who have jobs. What about for the people who can't get employed due to the conditions on labor? The young, poor, already jobless? Not so much concern for them, you got yours.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by door100 on Saturday March 27, 2021 @11:14PM (#26607632)
unlike the US, where working conditions for the poor are fantastic?

Don't get me wrong, France (and the EU) has its share of problems. But "better protections for their workers" is not one of them. EU countries decided to use a small portion of their enormous wealth building a safety net and decent worker protections. The US does this to a much lesser degree, preferring instead to center corporate profits and the wealthy.

Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by DeonPenny on Saturday March 27, 2021 @06:54PM (#26606354)
This part. People point to things like wealth inequality but not point to median incomes or employment rates, or marriage rates or birth rates. its extreme selection bias. If france was a country its median income with be comparable with alabama.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by mattkrause on Saturday March 27, 2021 @07:09PM (#26606460)
This is not a particularly useful statistic unless you include the varying levels of public services.

I just did a similar analysis for a job in the US vs one in Canada. The actual salary in the US was much higher, but including healthcare expenses closed a lot of the gap. In some cases (e.g., chronic illness or young kids), the lower Canadian salary was a better "deal" overall.

Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by Gibbon1 on Saturday March 27, 2021 @08:42PM (#26607047)
Friend of mine moved to France from California. He said raising a kid in is way cheaper and less stressful in France.

Me I'm fully aware that I'm paying whats amounts to $900/month protection money in the form of health insurance. Protection money because really the co-payes I have to pay are close cost of actually providing medical goods and services.

Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by neaden on Saturday March 27, 2021 @05:56PM (#26605978)
I'm not sure how COVID has effected it, but for the past years France has had a higher prime age labor force participation rate then the US, so it doesn't seem to be causing that issue.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by fixIt83 on Saturday March 27, 2021 @07:34PM (#26606626)
This could be describing any country on the planet.

Shantytowns have been growing across the US for almost 30 years.

Unions are just formalized reality, like fiscal economics, politics, etc

IMO, while we may not live to see it, I’m pretty sure out last 100-150 years of economic thought is, big picture style, on its way out.

It may take decades but once everyone is a gig worker, the political argument for universal healthcare will be undeniable.

IMO that’s more in-line with someone like Adam Smith, whose only condition for a market was free movement of workers between a market of opportunity.

This has somehow been mutated into a market of goods and services, probably out of laziness.

Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by kergonath on Saturday March 27, 2021 @04:03PM (#26605133)
I am not sure the American underclass (a large part of Trump’s support base) is faring much better. Even with larger unemployment, inequalities are still not as bad as in the US. Several countries have similar problems, whether it takes the form of 10% unemployment or working-class poor.