Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by ilamont on Friday March 26, 2021 @10:57AM
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25 years ago I travelled in the Taklamakan Basin which lies to the east of Afghanistan in Xinjiang, NW China. The local Uyghur people and their forebears had perfected over millennia various techniques related to growing and preserving grapes. It's a sub-sea level depression, one of the driest and hottest spots in Central Asia - so hot that local people warned me not to park my bicycle in the sun or the tires might burst. For thousands of years the people there have maintained underground irrigation channels which bring water from the mountains hundreds of km to the north to irrigate grapes and other crops. The covered channels go right through the towns and even in the early summer were filled with rushing water. Grape trellises were growing over many of the sidewalks throughout the city of Turpan (with stern signs in Arabic script and Chinese not to eat them, ignored by local kids) providing shade as well as grapes. The countryside nearby had these brick buildings with gaps between the bricks used for rapid drying of grapes to be made into the best raisins I've ever had.
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Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by etimberg on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:30AM
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Example of the vines in case anyone is also curious https://www.google.com/maps/@42.9532058,89.1822778,3a,75y,24...
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by jiggawatts on Friday March 26, 2021 @10:33PM
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That got me "exploring" virtually in the area, and I came across this scene of people apparently... "picking" rocks? Or something? https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1544659,79.9629378,3a,90y,8....
You seem to know that part of the world. Do you have an explanation of what's going on there?
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by neartheplain on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:48AM
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The underground canals sound like qanats, an ancient irrigation technology that originated in Persia and then spread to China and elsewhere:
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by hinkley on Friday March 26, 2021 @04:13PM
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I always thought digging a qanat must have been miserable work, but the fact is that the human body’s peak endurance comes at a temperature that is pretty close to ground temperature.
Runners and cyclists and gardeners know that a nice 55° day you can just go forever without stopping because your body isn’t wasting any energy on perspiration. And in fact if you do stop for long you just get cold.
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by Clewza313 on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:05PM
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Temperatures in the Taklamakan can reach 50°, but that's Celsius, not Fahrenheit.
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by vram22 on Friday March 26, 2021 @01:39PM
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Beat me to saying the same thing, by an hour:) I've always thought qanats were a cool idea.
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by jandrese on Friday March 26, 2021 @03:02PM
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The also sound like the Puquios used in South America.
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by abdupattoh on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:51AM
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I have the same wonderful memory of Turpan in 2000. Clay structures for making raisins were scattered around the villages. Hottest place I have been in my life. Great food.
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by samatman on Friday March 26, 2021 @03:26PM
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The Taklamakan is a basin (so lower than everything around it) and used to be an inland sea. But it isn't below sea level, everything is above 1000 meters.
One of those obscure corners of the Earth I have always wanted to visit...
Re:An ancient method that keeps Afghanistan's grapes fresh a...
by mc32 on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:19AM
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Quite interesting! Also what was the reason for the warning against eating?