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Re:Is that ship still stuck? by barbegal on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:11PM (#26586179)
Even if you could unload a container per minute you could only unload less than 1000 containers per day (assuming it's too dangerous to work at night) so at least 3 weeks of continuous helicopter operations.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by tempestn on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:20PM (#26586310)
Yes, that's true. It still might be faster than other options. You wouldn't likely need to unload the whole thing though, just lighten it enough to get it unstuck.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by joering2 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:23PM (#26586928)
Doubt that's the case. The weight on it currently forced it deep enough into the sand. Just unloading half of it won't make it magically raise from the sands. The analogy here would be like saying pumping out Whale's stomach will make it possible to drag him back deep into the ocean.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by mlyle on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:23PM (#26587440)
Even though the vessel sits on sand, it still displaces a lot of water, which reduces the force of it sitting on the sand by a lot. Removing cargo, fuel, and dredging reduces it yet more.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by joering2 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @11:46PM (#26588555)
Its most likely irrelevant. The reason why you see front so high up is because all the vessel's weight forced and smashed itself against the shallow water. At this point, rather than not the fuselage is damaged, and attempt to "ease up" the weight could only make it worse. I have been working enough around cargo vessels and at this size its never "oh he hit something, just put in reverse and you good to go". Similar if you ever get stabbed with a knife - hope never - but if you will, do not attempt to remove it on your own - you need to see a specialist who knows how to remove object it without causing internal bleeding, etc.

This vessel is most likely trash at this point. Time is of essence because tidal is pushing it against shallows and since its not perfectly centered it will eventually tip and with these amount of weight, not much tipping required for the whole thing to snawball. At this time they are figuring out how to quickly remove (save) as many containers as possible. Most likely will happen with another of these monsters to "park" close by and one by one will move the most expensive cargo first.

Another option I got from my buddy who is doing this stuff for life, is suggestion to dig up a whole big enough underneath to actually sunk the whole thing. This can be done in less than one week and is fastest most "stable" option. At this point they are not looking at saving this one vessel, but rather how to get the canal to operate again asap. You probably know it from driving on highway "move aside accident vehicles" is the most important thing to do.

Re:Is that ship still stuck? by mlyle on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:57AM (#26622658)
Seems this, in retrospect, was alarmist and incorrect. Dredging and pumping out ballast/bilges worked.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by mlyle on Friday March 26, 2021 @12:17AM (#26588698)
We'll see. Right now it seems the plan is to dredge, and supplement that with partial unloading of the vessel.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by mlyle on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:22PM (#26587434)
But a few days of operations, and unloading ballast/fuel, and dredging, and other efforts to refloat may be successful together.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by rcpt on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:12PM (#26587350)
Hm. I live in Long Beach and those guys are definitely used to working at night
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by andrewflnr on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:49PM (#26587982)
In helicopters? That's the tricky part.
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by gspr on Friday March 26, 2021 @08:37AM (#26591339)
… in helicopters, in the desert without the infrastructure of a major harbor, no less!
Re:Is that ship still stuck? by austhrow743 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @11:37PM (#26588516)
3 weeks of continuous helicopter operations for what? Ship doesn't need to be empty.