Re:Herd Immunity Is Near, Despite Fauci’s Denial
by mrfusion on Thursday March 25, 2021 @04:00PM
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I think you’re spot on.
U.S. District Judge William Stickman said it best when declaring PA's lockdown orders unconstitutional:
The liberties protected by the Constitution are not fair-weather freedoms -- in place when times are good but able to be cast aside in times of trouble. There is no question that this country has faced, and will face, emergencies of every sort, but the solution to a national crisis can never be permitted to supersede the commitment to individual liberty that stands as the foundation of the American experiment. The constitution cannot accept the concept of a 'new normal' where the basic liberties of the people can be subordinated to open-ended emergency mitigation measures
Re:Herd Immunity Is Near, Despite Fauci’s Denial
by tptacek on Thursday March 25, 2021 @01:59PM
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The power to enforce quarantines goes all the way back to the founders.
Re:Herd Immunity Is Near, Despite Fauci’s Denial
by Mediterraneo10 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:23PM
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Perpetual mask laws aren’t quarantines, though. Quarantines are limited-time emergency things. Consider how Poland's Supreme Court, for example, recently found that the government had no right to close businesses or require masks without declaring a state of emergency (which is necessarily a short-term thing). In the USA, with its even more litigious culture and judges favouring limited state intervention, I would expect long-term public-health laws to face even more legal opposition.
Re:Herd Immunity Is Near, Despite Fauci’s Denial
by tptacek on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:48PM
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Quarantines as considered by the founders were far harsher than the mask mandates we have now. This all seems like just-so logic to me.
Re:Herd Immunity Is Near, Despite Fauci’s Denial
by Mediterraneo10 on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:50PM
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Again, it doesn’t matter how harsh the quarantine, what matters is that a quarantine is a limited-time restriction. (Etymologically, the word "quarantine" originally referred to a period of 40 days.) Meanwhile, this thread of the discussion is about the idea of states imposing mask laws forever, even after the COVID emergency has passed.
To me this seems to be another over reach emboldened into existence by COVID measures. Im not making the argument these measure were unnecessary at the time. I am making the argument that we do in fact live in an imperfect world filled with both natural and man made threats. Bad things are going to happen and thats a fact of life.
> "they want to get rid of influenza, too, or they want public-health practices in place that could stop the next pandemic from ever starting at all."
Until domestic and international travel is banned this is a pipe dream. In a matter of months anyone who wants a vaccination will have had one. Time to get on with the business of living in an unpredictable world filled with new threats.